: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:21 pm  

Starbug wrote:

What it needs is the RFL to start to actively help the clubs [ all 35 of them ] to increase crowds rather than constantly trying to get corporate/sugar daddy/sponsorship investement

One trick ponys

I would agree but the where are we going to get the millions from apart from sugar daddy sponsors as the clubs dont make money & if SKY cant keep its revenue comming in we could well see our TV monies dry up then we realy will be up smelly creek with no paddle. (uncertain times ahead)

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:33 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

I would agree but the where are we going to get the millions from apart from sugar daddy sponsors as the clubs dont make money & if SKY cant keep its revenue comming in we could well see our TV monies dry up then we realy will be up smelly creek with no paddle. (uncertain times ahead)

As I said simple walk through the turnstyle fans

There is so much they could do , but dont

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:15 am  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Manchester is a massive city with 2,000,000+ people there. There is at most 120,000 attending games in Manchester at any one time. Plenty of people left who can go watch a Rugby match, football is obviously big there but not everyone follows United or City.

Manchester has a population of 458,000.
If you're talking about Greater Manchester (the county), then yeah you're looking at 2.5million+, but that includes Wigan, Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale and Stockport, which means far more than 120,000 are watching each weekend maximum.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:17 am  

Starbug wrote:

What it needs is the RFL to start to actively help the clubs [ all 35 of them ] to increase crowds rather than constantly trying to get corporate/sugar daddy/sponsorship investement

One trick ponys

Surely each team has their own marketing team, and community workers who have this in their remit?

What next, is it going to be the RFL's job to sort out the pre-match entertainment?

The clubs between them have a hell of a lot more resources than the RFL, so why should this fall under the RFL?

This season we have seen initiatives like free Challenge Cup tickets, half priced Magic Weekend tickets for ST holders, over the past few years we have seen the emergence of home and away kids Season Tickets.

Do the FA or the RFU get involved with increasing their individual club's crowds?

The RFL do not necessarily have the local expertise to draw in the crowds in my local town (Warrington) for example. This is 100% the responsibility of the individual clubs. Of course if there is anything the RFL can support or help, then they should (see the above examples).

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:17 pm  

Rd 20 - Weekend July 10th -12th

Wigan V Les Cats 11,543
Wakefield v Leeds 6,425
Celtic v Salford 3,009
Quins v Hudds 3,916
Warrington v St Helens 12,075
Hull KR v Bradford TBC
Cas v Hull FC TBC

Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total =
Rd Avg =

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:23 pm  

Dave T wrote:

Surely each team has their own marketing team, and community workers who have this in their remit?

What next, is it going to be the RFL's job to sort out the pre-match entertainment?

The clubs between them have a hell of a lot more resources than the RFL, so why should this fall under the RFL?

This season we have seen initiatives like free Challenge Cup tickets, half priced Magic Weekend tickets for ST holders, over the past few years we have seen the emergence of home and away kids Season Tickets.

Do the FA or the RFU get involved with increasing their individual club's crowds?

The RFL do not necessarily have the local expertise to draw in the crowds in my local town (Warrington) for example. This is 100% the responsibility of the individual clubs. Of course if there is anything the RFL can support or help, then they should (see the above examples).

Do they ?

Do Quins have a ' marketing team ' ?, Salford ? , any non SL club ? , Do Warrington have a Marketing ' team ' ?

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:34 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Do they ?

Do Quins have a ' marketing team ' ?, Salford ? , any non SL club ? , Do Warrington have a Marketing ' team ' ?

They should have, even if it's not full time. How will they grow as businesses without marketing and advertising?

[Wheels]

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:39 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Do they ?

Do Quins have a ' marketing team ' ?, Salford ? , any non SL club ? , Do Warrington have a Marketing ' team ' ?

York City Knights have one, so I should expect Quins to have one.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:13 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

Rd 20 - Weekend July 10th -12th

Wigan V Les Cats 11,543
Wakefield v Leeds 6,425
Celtic v Salford 3,009
Quins v Hudds 3,916
Warrington v St Helens 12,075
Hull KR v Bradford TBC
Cas v Hull FC TBC

Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total =
Rd Avg =

Tigersv v Hull Att. 8,297

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:43 pm  

classycas2009 wrote:

Tigersv v Hull Att. 8,297

Thought there was atleast 9,000, looked to be around 2000/2,500 Hull fans