Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:15 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).

I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.

Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:41 pm  

DGM wrote:

I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.

Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12

Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:50 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it

Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.

10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:12 pm  

DGM wrote:

I've explained all this to you before Ronnie. Passports and where you're born don't matter anymore, it's whether they're classed as Federation (RLEF) or Non-Federation trained. You're allowed 7 of the latter. Of course, the RFL can also grant special dispensation.

And who is Ronnie, my name is James.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:14 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).

Mitch Clark was born in Britain, therefore holds a British passport so does not count on the quota.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:21 pm  

DGM wrote:

Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.

10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.

Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:33 pm  

robinrovers10 wrote:

Mitch Clark was born in Britain, therefore holds a British passport so does not count on the quota.

Nothing to do with passports or where you're born Ronnie, for the 3rd time now.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:35 pm  

moxi1 wrote:

Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!

We have 7 Non-Fed players. Clubs are allowed 7 Non-Fed players. No dispensation required.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:37 pm  

moxi1 wrote:

Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!

Rely heavily?

Talanoa, Tuimavave, Fonua, Michaels, Manu, Kelly, Minichiello

So 7 out of 28/29 players we have used this year - hardly a heavy reliance.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:39 pm  

DGM wrote:

We have 7 Non-Fed players. Clubs are allowed 7 Non-Fed players. No dispensation required.

What about dispensation for matongo, must be something there. At the end of the day, you're trying to say rovers use way more overseas players then others and we need them. Yes we do need them like every other club, but we have a couple who probably won't play when the 8s start.