Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:57 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

1 major final appearance compared to Warrington's 7 in recent years.

Poor record they have. Last 10 seasons they’ve reached 14 SF’s in Playoffs and the Cup and only have 1 trophy to show for it and Ben Flower gifted them that one.

Agree with the previous poster though, Price still needs to back it up with a win next week otherwise Warrington will have achieved the unwanted achievement of losing both major finals in a season twice in 3 seasons.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:10 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Depends. If Wire end up losing both then there'll be the same questions asked about Price and his side's temperament as are being asked about Holbrook and Saints right now. However, if his boys lift the silverware then he'll (rightly) be regarded as having achieved something very special.

I don’t know about that. Nothing has been expected of us. I never expected to reach either final or even the top four never mind achieve all three. Our squad has a lot of re-building work to have done still. We lack in a lot of areas yet still overachieved in our coach’s first year.

I said at the start of the season that this year was a free hit, wherever happens happens as long we we get in the Super 8s.

A loss next week should happen really, Wigan and Cas have shown that they are consistently better than us over the course of the season and both would be favourites against us. A loss will be no disgrace and no questions should be asked.

A win and, as you say, it would be a very special achievement.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:11 am  

Great result for the Wire. Saints have been found out since teams realised they have a poor mans Graham Appo at fullback and a Jamie Foster clone at scrum half.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:17 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Depends. If Wire end up losing both then there'll be the same questions asked about Price and his side's temperament as are being asked about Holbrook and Saints right now. However, if his boys lift the silverware then he'll (rightly) be regarded as having achieved something very special.

not really, this is still ostensibly smiths team, this year is a free hit in terms of whatever happens. After last year everything is a bonus

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:23 am  

Don't think it should be thought of as a free hit. Wire haven’t won a GF and been a few years now for the CC. With the 2 teams who have dominated those competitions in recent years out of the picture this season then this year was/is a real opportunity to do something (like Catalans did)

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:00 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

I don’t think we see it as a gimme at all but it’s up to other clubs to deny us, you’d think Leeds and Wigan should just roll over and let a new team win it for “the good of the sport”.

It's so easy for you to say, after all, how many finals have Leeds, Wigan & St's been involved in over the last twenty years?

You as supporters have become so blase about getting to the G.F. & heaven forbid if you fail then it's been a poor season.

I would just like to see another group of supporters feel the elation that you must have felt on seeing your team lift the trophy for the first time in living memory, that is if you can remember? After all your success, it must have dimmed by now.

As for teams rolling over, Leeds haven't done a bad job this year mind.

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:10 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Don't think it should be thought of as a free hit. Wire haven’t won a GF and been a few years now for the CC. With the 2 teams who have dominated those competitions in recent years out of the picture this season then this year was/is a real opportunity to do something (like Catalans did)

Which 2 Teams are they?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:12 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Don't think it should be thought of as a free hit. Wire haven’t won a GF and been a few years now for the CC. With the 2 teams who have dominated those competitions in recent years out of the picture this season then this year was/is a real opportunity to do something (like Catalans did)

no, no one was tipping us for anything this year, first season with a new coach instilling a new ethos after us being pathetic and ending up in the qualifiers, with a halfback marquee signing that had rumours about going home from pre season which ended up saying he wanted out. Losing the first 5 games of the season.

No one was expecting anything like what we've done so far, it's all a bonus.

[Karen]

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:18 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Which 2 Teams are they?

I would suggest Hull (CC) and Leeds (GF)

Re: GAME ON : St. Helens v Warrington Wolves - 19:45:00 : Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:50 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

no, no one was tipping us for anything this year, first season with a new coach instilling a new ethos after us being pathetic and ending up in the qualifiers, with a halfback marquee signing that had rumours about going home from pre season which ended up saying he wanted out. Losing the first 5 games of the season.

No one was expecting anything like what we've done so far, it's all a bonus.

Man for man, especially if you include Curry, you are as good as nearly any team in SL & should be up there competing.