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Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:05 pm  
McGuire in at scrum half for Williams
Cudjoe in for Bateman at Centre
McGillvary in for Burgess on the wing.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:08 pm  
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McGuire in at scrum half for Williams
Cudjoe in for Bateman at Centre
McGillvary in for Burgess on the wing.

Just Graham and Hardaker. Change the rest!
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:18 pm  
I'd bring Westwood in for one of the 2nd rowers, and Cudjoe into the centres.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:41 pm  
I'd change the coach and play with 11 men - it would be better to leave the half-backs off the pitch.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:51 pm  
I'd put Gale in for Widdop. Generally I wouldn't advocate changing halfbacks mid test series, but on today's showing it really is necessary. I know Williams was very poor too, but he's a young kid with plenty of room for growth, whereas I'm not sure Widdop's excuse. Beyond that, maybe Cudjoe left centre with Bateman into the pack for Farrell. I'd also really want to drop Mike Cooper but given we have only picked 3 other props in the squad, that isn't really possible
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:14 pm  
1. Hardaker
2. McGilvary
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Gale
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Hill
11. Bateman
12. Ferres
13. O'Loughlin

14. Hodgson
15. Burgess
16. Cooper
17. Currie

I don't think Joe Burgess has done anything wrong at all, I just think we need more grunt at the back.
I don't think Bateman has done anything wrong either but he's a second rower not a centre. It might work for Wigan but not at international level.

I think we need Roby on from the start. He gets us moving forward better. Have Hodgson spell him for 15 mins or so.

I think the backrow including O'Loughlin has been poor aside from Ferres who looks the only one who's going to run a line. So have him start alongside Bateman with Currie on the bench.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:20 pm  
If you're bringing Leroy and jerry in then, to me, you have to play them together, they have been on fire at in the last 1/3rd of the season
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:22 pm  
A bit of dabbling in the backs won't change anything if the forwards don't run onto the ball but take it standing still. There are more fundamental issues to address than the personnel.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:30 pm  
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A bit of dabbling in the backs won't change anything if the forwards don't run onto the ball but take it standing still. There are more fundamental issues to address than the personnel.

This.
We need to play with a much faster tempo.
Roby for 80 minutes is a must for me.
We have two great wingers - use them.
We will win next week but a change of coach is inevitable after today's debacle.
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Re: Changes for 3rd Test : Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:36 pm  
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This.
We need to play with a much faster tempo.
Roby for 80 minutes is a must for me.
We have two great wingers - use them.
We will win next week but a change of coach is inevitable after today's debacle.

To get the ball to the wingers the forwards need to turn up and we need a link. As the half backs are incapable of providing it I'm not sure who will - O'Loughlin I guess?
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