Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:21 pm  

MPhil12 wrote:

No, Roberts and Austin have still been the highest paid players over the past two seasons though.

Says who?

Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:30 pm  

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto
Wakefield

Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:32 pm  

Saints
Wire
Wigan
Hull
Cas
Catalans
Leeds
Huddersfield
Salford
Toronto
Wakefield
Hull KR

GF - Wire
CC - Hull

Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:34 pm  

Stanley Unwin wrote:

Genuine question - which Hull players do you perceive to have attitude problems?

Maybe I didn’t phrase that as well as I could have.
By “attitude problem” I wasn’t really thinking if the traditional ‘petulant teenager’ attitude (though that’s exactly what Connor has).
I was more thinking about the number of times I’ve seen their players almost collectively stop bothering when they are behind on the scoreboard. That leads to them getting a right hammering rather than a routine loss and that’s then harder to put right the following week. Look at some of those defeats last season - 63 points, 62 points, 55 points, 44 points (twice) and 40 points. That’s a team that gives up when the going gets tough. On ability, they are too good a team to suffer so many heavy defeats, so if it’s not ability then it’s down to attitude.

Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:05 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

Maybe I didn’t phrase that as well as I could have.
By “attitude problem” I wasn’t really thinking if the traditional ‘petulant teenager’ attitude (though that’s exactly what Connor has).
I was more thinking about the number of times I’ve seen their players almost collectively stop bothering when they are behind on the scoreboard. That leads to them getting a right hammering rather than a routine loss and that’s then harder to put right the following week. Look at some of those defeats last season - 63 points, 62 points, 55 points, 44 points (twice) and 40 points. That’s a team that gives up when the going gets tough. On ability, they are too good a team to suffer so many heavy defeats, so if it’s not ability then it’s down to attitude.

i think if you have to answer to Manu M'au in the changing rooms afterwards, you're going to put in for the full 80

Re: Predictions 2020 : Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:29 pm  

the artist wrote:

i think if you have to answer to Manu M'au in the changing rooms afterwards, you're going to put in for the full 80

We’ll see.
Radford himself is no shrinking violet, but they didn’t seem to worry about answering to him in the changing rooms afterwards.
The one thing I would say is that FC might have signed enough players to change that culture across the team. Time will tell.

Re: Predictions 2020 : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:30 am  

Funny people mention Radford as being a problem, but nobosy ever mentions Powell, who despite all the fanfare around him, hasn't really achieved much, apart from one season and even then they managed to bottle the big games.

Re: Predictions 2020 : Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:30 am  

JonnoTheGreat wrote:

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto
Wakefield

Trinity bottom again, it, hasn't happened yet but, like the Wire, it could be your year
Apart form insisting on Wakefield at the bottom, the others aren't too bad though

Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Wakefield **
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto

This is more like it

Re: Predictions 2020 : Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:02 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Funny people mention Radford as being a problem, but nobosy ever mentions Powell, who despite all the fanfare around him, hasn't really achieved much, apart from one season and even then they managed to bottle the big games.

You don’t see Cas give up like Hull do. I can remember one game since 2014 when Cas were well and truly trounced - the first game of 2018 against Saints.
That’s not to say Powell is perfect. Question marks remain about big-game mentality, and around some specific games that seem to go badly every year (St Helens and Catalans away).

Re: Predictions 2020 : Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:35 am  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

You don’t see Cas give up like Hull do. I can remember one game since 2014 when Cas were well and truly trounced - the first game of 2018 against Saints.
That’s not to say Powell is perfect. Question marks remain about big-game mentality, and around some specific games that seem to go badly every year (St Helens and Catalans away).

I'm not just talking about just getting hammered I'm comparing Radford and Powell, lots on here mentioning Radford as the reason Hull wont do as well as expected, whilst no one ever mentions Powell, I dont understand why.