: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:08 pm  

Sadly, it is that cohesion that doesn't seem to be on some of the players agendas. Witness Rob Parker, our Captain, in the Willows Bar after the game. There is something very, very wrong here and it is so painfully reminiscent of the final days of Karl Harrisons leadership.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:37 pm  

SteveRed wrote:

Sadly, it is that cohesion that doesn't seem to be on some of the players agendas. Witness Rob Parker, our Captain, in the Willows Bar after the game. There is something very, very wrong here and it is so painfully reminiscent of the final days of Karl Harrisons leadership.

Can I ask what Parker did or didn't do?

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:16 am  

He was sat away from the other groups of players and looked utterly dejected to me. A couple of the younger lads were with him but none of the senior pro's. (Maybe I just saw one brief candid moment - who knows?)But, I felt the abuse he received as a likely contributory factor to his obvious demeanour. Sorry, but I felt sorry for the bloke - I doubt he asked for the Poisoned Chalice that being Alkers' successor would be, particularly in such covert circumstances.

Re: Wilkinson backing McRae : Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:18 am  

Stew2 wrote:

He's got three games.

what ? Saints and HKR away and Wigan at home - like we're gonna win those 3

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:45 am  

SteveRed wrote:

There is something very, very wrong here and it is so painfully reminiscent of the final days of Karl Harrisons leadership.

You have to wonder what happened during Karl Harrison's last season. Did the players fall out in Florida that year? I know we were all annoyed when the likes of Coley, Robinson and Dorn were putting in some seriously lack lustre performances, but previous to that Coley and Robinson had always seemed quite loyal to the club.

How many of that team are left? I remain convinced that there is leadership issue, that doesn't seem to be fixed by changing the manager.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:07 am  

I hope you stick by your coach.
He didn't fare too well over in Aus but he set a lot of structures moving that saw both Hull and Saints turn out decent sides with good youth.
Give him a season at least i say

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:08 am  

Maybe we got it wrong regarding the coley and robinson situation and they weren't the problem within the club!

They have long gone and yet were still stuck with problems within the camp.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:52 am  

martin13 wrote:

something will happen about the stadium, i believe this because peel holdings need that land developed more than we need a stadium.

but i just wish someone from the club would come out and tell us the truth.

Can't Forever Reds squeeze them?

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:22 pm  

Difficult games ahead...5-4 to be sacked and a series of gutless performances I think it is a matter of when rather than if.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:43 pm  

GanEden wrote:

Can't Forever Reds squeeze them?

Howard Clague was at the last meeting. A resume of what he said was posted on here by Shirley. To summarise:

> Peel are building the stadium. As a result they will own it too. In truth, they saved the project’s bacon when Red City Developments went into administration.
> There’s no retail element involved, as yet. Even if there were, the revenue goes to Peel, just as the revenue for match day food, refreshements etc. So the retail issue isn’t really a concern for us now.
> The stadium’s redesign (a tweak rather than a scaling down) means the project has to go through the planning/go-ahead process again. This should be a formality as the sticking point last time was the retail element.
> The redesign means that certain elements that were in the last proposal may not be included. This includes the standing area. These elements will be up for discussion between the club and Peel.
> Salford can still rent the stadium at a ‘peppercorn’ rate.
> Salford’s revenue will come from gates reciepts and sponsorship, both of which are planned to be more than we get now.
> Salford City College, a 25,000 student facility built into the project, would mean that the stadium’s food/refreshments area will be used through the year. Due to the volume of consumers, it promises to be one of the best/most capable in the country (as far as those built-in stadiums is concerned).