Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:41 pm  

Stadium management companies are set up for new stadiums to recover the outlay, running costs and maintenance of a stadium. They will look to maximise the earnings from the stadium and it's hospitality facilities 52 weeks of the year.

A tennent pays a rent for playing matches at the stadium and has use of all the facilities on matchdays. The club are also provided with offices, club shop and changing/treatment area's. There is a cost to the tennent but you have to consider the tennent is not having to pay rates, utility costs, ground maintenence costs, insurance, policing, and for matchday staffing as they would in their previous home. For a rugby league club with 13 home fixtures a year (Less Cup) it just doesn't make sense owning your own ground, especially if it's inferior to a new stadium that has much better facilities.

For the move to be successful it's absolutely vital the club attracts more support and sponsorship than they did in their previous ground. This has been Leigh's problem and that's why Starbug is so bitter about the situation at the LSV. Unfortunately for Leigh their new stadium has had no effect on increasing support and it leaves the club with less control than at Hilton Park for increasing revenue through other means.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:38 pm  

theredshed wrote:

Stadium management companies are set up for new stadiums to recover the outlay, running costs and maintenance of a stadium. They will look to maximise the earnings from the stadium and it's hospitality facilities 52 weeks of the year.

A tennent pays a rent for playing matches at the stadium and has use of all the facilities on matchdays. The club are also provided with offices, club shop and changing/treatment area's. There is a cost to the tennent but you have to consider the tennent is not having to pay rates, utility costs, ground maintenence costs, insurance, policing, and for matchday staffing as they would in their previous home. For a rugby league club with 13 home fixtures a year (Less Cup) it just doesn't make sense owning your own ground, especially if it's inferior to a new stadium that has much better facilities.

For the move to be successful it's absolutely vital the club attracts more support and sponsorship than they did in their previous ground. This has been Leigh's problem and that's why Starbug is so bitter about the situation at the LSV. Unfortunately for Leigh their new stadium has had no effect on increasing support and it leaves the club with less control than at Hilton Park for increasing revenue through other means.

Yes it is vital to attract more support , if you look on the last page you will see how much money and how long it will take to get a new stadium to self susstaining for SCR s , it gives me no pleasure to see that you might end up in a similar position to Leigh , believe me , i wish that upon no RL club

I have posted what I have in response to numerous posts by Salford fans on this thread who seem under the impression that the stadium will instantly generate hundreds of thousands of pounds in extra revenue for the club

It wont , that will only happen through fans through the turnstyles , and that will need a lot of hard work and money

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:55 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Yes it is vital to attract more support , if you look on the last page you will see how much money and how long it will take to get a new stadium to self susstaining for SCR s , it gives me no pleasure to see that you might end up in a similar position to Leigh , believe me , i wish that upon no RL club

I have posted what I have in response to numerous posts by Salford fans on this thread who seem under the impression that the stadium will instantly generate hundreds of thousands of pounds in extra revenue for the club

It wont , that will only happen through fans through the turnstyles , and that will need a lot of hard work and money

Believe me,the Chairman and the other directors are under no illusion that a new stadium alone will not automatically generate a large amount of extra revenue into SCR.

They know what crowds we have to achieve to make the club a success on and off the field and they have also carried out numerous checks and balances to help in increasing the crowds which includes the corporate side as well as the playing staff and facilities.

I don't know how the Leigh Sports Village was set up and is currently operated, but where would Leigh Centurions be now if they didn't have the stadium?

From what I hear big inroads are being made at the club into attracting new money into the club from areas/companies/individuals who up to now for whatever reason have not made any commitment previously.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:01 pm  

Original Salford City Red wrote:

Believe me,the Chairman and the other directors are under no illusion that a new stadium alone will not automatically generate a large amount of extra revenue into SCR.

They know what crowds we have to achieve to make the club a success on and off the field and they have also carried out numerous checks and balances to help in increasing the crowds which includes the corporate side as well as the playing staff and facilities.

I don't know how the Leigh Sports Village was set up and is currently operated, but where would Leigh Centurions be now if they didn't have the stadium?
From what I hear big inroads are being made at the club into attracting new money into the club from areas/companies/individuals who up to now for whatever reason have not made any commitment previously.

Still playing at Hilton Park , with a capacity set at 1,000 by the council

Or more likely playing at Crilly park in Atherton with a 500 capacity

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:06 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Or more likely playing at Crilly park in Atherton with a 500 capacity

Hmm that'd be a bit tough but on the bright side, Crackin' Guinness in the bar

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:11 pm  

king of the shed wrote:

Hmm that'd be a bit tough but on the bright side, Crackin' Guinness in the bar

You wont be having that at barton

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:14 pm  

Starbug wrote:

You wont be having that at barton

Valid point, it'll be the usual cack, Carlsberg / Tetley's fayre I suppose!

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:01 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Still playing at Hilton Park , with a capacity set at 1,000 by the council

Or more likely playing at Crilly park in Atherton with a 500 capacity

If it's not working out for you at LSV you could consider playing in the new 750 capacity function suite at Barton, we'll never fill it in a month of Fridays.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:27 pm  

theredshed wrote:

If it's not working out for you at LSV you could consider playing in the new 750 capacity function suite at Barton, we'll never fill it in a month of Fridays.

I think it actually IS starting to 'work out' for Leigh at the LSV but it's taken a long while and plenty of fans have been upset along the way, although most have now got used to a new normality.

We have to learn the lessons from their experiences (which is why I suggested the 'leaders' of LISA and Forever Reds get together - hope you managed to ladies??)

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:01 pm  

I genuinely hope it does work out. They're a club with a proud history that moved to the LSV at a time when interest in the team had dropped due to playing in a lower division and missing out on a franchise.

I remember going to Hilton Park now and again to watch the likes of John Woods, Des Drummond and Tony Cottrell in the 80's.. (I went the odd Sunday If Salford had played on a Friday) In them days they used to have quite a big following and played some good entertaining rugby. I think what didn't help Leigh up was when the wealthy Wigan directors started throwing big money at their team. Wigan's attendances went up and Leigh's went down.