Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:03 pm  

Bigpev wrote:

so if Hull brought an extra 1200 that is an extra £24,000 at £20 a pop,

That’s great. But what happens when the novelty of the new stadium wears off? The away figures this year are bound to be up on last which like you say is extra revenue that can only be good, but once people have visited the stadium once we are back to square one you’re not telling me Cas are going to bring 1,500 again next year? And I can guarantee Hull will bring less too. Again we are relying on away support to keep us in business.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:07 pm  

that seemed to be the gist of what the club have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years before the move

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:19 pm  

Bigpev wrote:

that seemed to be the gist of what the club have been saying for the past 2 - 3 years before the move

And you would accept building the club's future on the back of away supporters is a ridiculous idea?

Whichever way you dress it up there has been less than 4,000 Salford supporters at the first two home games and the 'build it and they will come' myth perpetuated by Tarry, Simms and Wilkinson has been shattered. If we get our act together our best hope of progression is the Huddersfield model of steady but slow crowd growth over a period of years. This will take a huge improvement from the club.

Surely you can't disagree with anything in this post?

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:29 pm  

Walshovski wrote:

And you would accept building the club's future on the back of away supporters is a ridiculous idea?

Whichever way you dress it up there has been less than 4,000 Salford supporters at the first two home games and the 'build it and they will come' myth perpetuated by Tarry, Simms and Wilkinson has been shattered. If we get our act together our best hope of progression is the Huddersfield model of steady but slow crowd growth over a period of years. This will take a huge improvement from the club.

Surely you can't disagree with anything in this post?

We need money. This was the case before the move and will remain the case until we get some or implode.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:29 pm  

The optimist wrote:

You were doing alright until the "away figures are a guess" bit hull sold 1200 before Friday fact.

You left the "NFT" off the end of that post in order to give it more credence.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:39 pm  

Walshovski wrote:

And you would accept building the club's future on the back of away supporters is a ridiculous idea?

Whichever way you dress it up there has been less than 4,000 Salford supporters at the first two home games and the 'build it and they will come' myth perpetuated by Tarry, Simms and Wilkinson has been shattered. If we get our act together our best hope of progression is the Huddersfield model of steady but slow crowd growth over a period of years. This will take a huge improvement from the club.

Surely you can't disagree with anything in this post?

i totally agree i was only stating what the club were saying, plus the growth in corporate as well, but the coalface support has not been looked at by the club in shape or form.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:40 pm  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

We need money. This was the case before the move and will remain the case until we get some or implode.

Of course more money would be great but this club has got huge room for development in areas that cost nothing. It's not money that prevent card machines being installed or cause the club shop to be shut during lunch. Basic good quality customer service doesn't cost anything. Improving basic things in the long term will generate increased revenue streams and make us a more viable investment opportunity for someone in the future. Again surely this is something that can be agreed upon by all? The club has got financial difficulties but we will only generate more money if we become better at everything we do.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:43 pm  

Bigpev wrote:

i totally agree i was only stating what the club were saying, plus the growth in corporate as well, but the coalface support has not been looked at by the club in shape or form.

Agreed. I think people often argue on this forum because they are discussing two different issues.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:49 pm  

Walshovski wrote:

And you would accept building the club's future on the back of away supporters is a ridiculous idea?

Whichever way you dress it up there has been less than 4,000 Salford supporters at the first two home games and the 'build it and they will come' myth perpetuated by Tarry, Simms and Wilkinson has been shattered. If we get our act together our best hope of progression is the Huddersfield model of steady but slow crowd growth over a period of years. This will take a huge improvement from the club.

Surely you can't disagree with anything in this post?

On every occasion where I was listening to club officials discussing the new stadium I have never heard at any time "Build it and they will come" what has been pointed out is that-

(a)We will have to work hard to increase our home support which we may or may not have done over the last two home games.

(b)We will look to increase the number of away supporters that attend matches at Salford City Stadium compared with the last few years at the Willows,which we appear to have achieved on the last two home matches.

(3)We will have a better opportunity to increase the corporate side of the business, I am unsure how this side has gone.

I agree that the Huddersfield model of slow but steady growth,preferably during the next three years to start with and there is clearly many areas where the club can and should improve things on the advertising / marketing front.

Club officials have quoted Warrington, Hull FC and their increase in crowds as examples of what happens with new stadiums but as people have said previously they both started from a higher support base than we have.

Re: east stand closed : Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:03 pm  

Original Salford City Red wrote:

Club officials have quoted Warrington, Hull FC and their increase in crowds as examples of what happens with new stadiums but as people have said previously they both started from a higher support base than we have.

They both did a lot of work to make the moves a success unlike anything we're doing at the moment. Whether you like it or not, we adapted a 'build it and they will come attitude', which maybe now they realising wasn't such a good idea. If that wasn't the case people would know about the games, know who's ground it is, know what sport is played at the ground etc. The fact is people don't. And on top of that there is all the other issues, such as the not having a card machine/telephone line its not as if moving to the stadium was shock so why weren't these put in place? Could you imagine that happening at the two teams you mention?