Re: GOOD NEWS : Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:53 pm  

Maybe Barton Flyers question could be asked at the Forever Reds meeting on monday.
As for the staduim , great news

Re: GOOD NEWS : Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:15 pm  

Don't want to rain on your parade but if you check with the planning dept you will learn that the Outline Planning application has not yet even gone to committee, so Outline Planning approval has not been granted, despite what others might say.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:29 pm  

chippo wrote: Don't want to rain on your parade but if you check with the planning dept you will learn that the Outline Planning application has not yet even gone to committee, so Outline Planning approval has not been granted, despite what others might say. I think you are getting your wires crossed between outline planning and full planning consent. Outline planning for a stadium on the Barton site was granted ages ago. See following link on BBC website: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 560140.stm It's my understanding that the detailed planning application will be submitted over the next few weeks to allow the building work to start in September. The detailed planning application can only be submitted once the full stadium specification has been agreed between the club and the developers. In the meantime I believe the land remediation is due to start soon and will take about 6 months to complete.

chippo wrote: Don't want to rain on your parade but if you check with the planning dept you will learn that the Outline Planning application has not yet even gone to committee, so Outline Planning approval has not been granted, despite what others might say. I think you are getting your wires crossed between outline planning and full planning consent. Outline planning for a stadium on the Barton site was granted ages ago. See following link on BBC website: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 560140.stm It's my understanding that the detailed planning application will be submitted over the next few weeks to allow the building work to start in September. The detailed planning application can only be submitted once the full stadium specification has been agreed between the club and the developers. In the meantime I believe the land remediation is due to start soon and will take about 6 months to complete.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:51 pm  

theredshed wrote:

I think you are getting your wires crossed between outline planning and full planning consent. Outline planning for a stadium on the Barton site was granted ages ago.

Not confused at all.

You are absolutely correct about the stages and sequencing of gaining planning approval but ...........the outline approval granted previously was on an application submitted in 2003 and has long since lapsed. Although I am sure they will be passed eventually the new, and current, plans have not yet been before the planning committee and are listed as 'pending consideration'. This can be verified by looking on Salford City Council's Planning Dept web-site.

The only thing that has been 'approved' so far is the setting up of a Joint Venture Company.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:26 am  

chippo wrote:

Not confused at all.

You are absolutely correct about the stages and sequencing of gaining planning approval but ...........the outline approval granted previously was on an application submitted in 2003 and has long since lapsed. Although I am sure they will be passed eventually the new, and current, plans have not yet been before the planning committee and are listed as 'pending consideration'. This can be verified by looking on Salford City Council's Planning Dept web-site.

The only thing that has been 'approved' so far is the setting up of a Joint Venture Company.

If this is the case I can't see it being anything other than a formality Chippo. The council know the deadlines and I can't see the council planning commitee knocking back their own planning application? They have at least 6 months before building starts which is more than enough time to get everything rubber stamped!

I did notice that you appear to be affiliated with the Widnes club, is all this wishful thinking? in the hope that if Salford don't build then Widnes will be nailed on for a franchise?
I like Widnes as a club and sympothised when Celtic got in SL but it seems you are now looking for a potential problem with the new stadium that doesn't exist.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:31 am  

The outline planning was extended recently, because the club and Peel understand how these things work.

Suggest you find someone else to pin hopes of gaining a licence from. Maybe Wakefield?

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:56 am  

THE SOONER WE SEE SOME BUILDING WORK ON THE BARTON SITE THE BETTER..

THEN ALL THE SNIPERS CAN CRAWL BACK INTO THE TRENCHES.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:32 am  

Absolutely nothing to do with any connection with Widnes.
I would also imagine their licence application will be based on their strengths, not the weaknesses of others.

This information was gleaned in research for my next book - which will cover the licensing process in general and how it affects clubs. Similar information has come to light about other clubs - Wakey & Cas included - and no doubt others when I get round to it. I merely commented on Salford as it is, geographically, my local club and have many friends who support them.

But facts are facts and there is no outline planning consent at the moment.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:29 am  

Outline planning was given at a recent council meeting. Trawl through the posts on here and you will find the details, it camse just before the loan.You obviously mised it in your research.

Re: GOOD NEWS : Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:52 pm  

chippo wrote:

Absolutely nothing to do with any connection with Widnes.
I would also imagine their licence application will be based on their strengths, not the weaknesses of others.

This information was gleaned in research for my next book - which will cover the licensing process in general and how it affects clubs. Similar information has come to light about other clubs - Wakey & Cas included - and no doubt others when I get round to it. I merely commented on Salford as it is, geographically, my local club and have many friends who support them.

But facts are facts and there is no outline planning consent at the moment.

Well with your research so far being all wrong I wouldn't bother with the book, unless you are writing a work of fiction, as Red willow states the outline planning permission was extended last year, a little more work ( I know this is a swearword in your region) and perhaps you will come up with real facts, such as when was the first episode of Neighbours Broadcast in the UK or the first episode of Coronation Street broadcast. Now go back to your own site and take your little bedtime stories with you, unless you can answer my little posers.