Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Wed May 15, 2013 1:25 pm  

bandgeekmafia78 wrote:

Correct.

Yes LeagueFreak appears to have purchased our new club domain for us, how generous!

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sat May 18, 2013 8:56 am  

The real Red Devils from Greater Manchester get to have their heritage nickname as part of their club, I'm pleased for you. It's a shame those plagiarising ba$tard$ from Stretford in the other sport pinched it from you and ran it as if it were their own for decades. The sad thing is I wonder if the nation know about les diables rouges and whether they just think you're copying them lot?

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sat May 18, 2013 8:28 pm  

Caveman wrote: It's a shame those plagiarising ba$tard$ from Stretford in the other sport pinched it from you and ran it as if it were their own for decades. That may not be true. But Salford certainly had the nickname before United.

Caveman wrote: It's a shame those plagiarising ba$tard$ from Stretford in the other sport pinched it from you and ran it as if it were their own for decades. That may not be true. But Salford certainly had the nickname before United.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sun May 19, 2013 8:38 am  

Caveman wrote:

The real Red Devils from Greater Manchester get to have their heritage nickname as part of their club, I'm pleased for you. It's a shame those plagiarising ba$tard$ from Stretford in the other sport pinched it from you and ran it as if it were their own for decades. The sad thing is I wonder if the nation know about les diables rouges and whether they just think you're copying them lot?

I remember going to a Manchester United tour at Old Trafford back in 2000 just after Utd won their second European Cup (I went mainly to view the champions league trophy) we were taken out onto the pitch and were told the history of Utd's Red Devils moniker, Utd's tour guide said it was actually supporters that started the nickname off for Utd, as they attended both Salford and Utd games u'd see Salford fans attending Utd games. Something which caught Busbys eye before the game was a young child with the the Red Devils knitted onto an homemade scarf, he went over to the child and his farther and asked " nice scarf son who are the Red Devils" the farther replied its Salford rugby clubs nickname their the Red Devils. Busby replied "cracking little nickname I'm impressed with that" apparently you'd start seeing scarfs being sold at old Trafford with the Red Devils on and eventually a devil was introduced into the clubs crest the season after. I think it was brilliant story and the guy who was heading the tour said he was told by busby himself when he was at the club under an club ambassador role.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sun May 19, 2013 2:38 pm  

RED LEAGUE wrote:

Something which caught Busbys eye before the game was a young child with the the Red Devils knitted onto an homemade scarf, he went over to the child and his farther and asked " nice scarf son who are the Red Devils" the farther replied its Salford rugby clubs nickname their the Red Devils. Busby replied "cracking little nickname I'm impressed with that" apparently you'd start seeing scarfs being sold at old Trafford with the Red Devils on and eventually a devil was introduced into the clubs crest the season after. I think it was brilliant story and the guy who was heading the tour said he was told by busby himself when he was at the club under an club ambassador role.

As lovely as this story is, it, like most attributed to Busby and the ‘Red Devils’ name, is probably an urban legend. The most far out story I’ve heard yet is that United earned the nickname ‘A Voros Ordogok’ on tour in Hungary, which sounds remarkably similar to how Salford got the name. Misappropriation, perhaps? (Although at least one RL historian reckons Lance Todd fabricated the nickname prior to the French tour for promotional purposes.)

Busby was very proud of the ‘Babes’ moniker, making few if any references to the ‘Red Devils’, even in his memoirs. He wasn’t known as a rugby fan, nor was he known for savvy marketing ploys. The first time Manchester United made reference to the Red Devils was for a souvenir brochure during the 1956–57 season; the nickname is also mentioned in newspaper reports at the same time.

I have a hunch this is more likely:

RED LEAGUE wrote:

Utd's tour guide said it was actually supporters that started the nickname off for Utd, as they attended both Salford and Utd games u'd see Salford fans attending Utd games.

But it’s nothing more than a hunch at the moment.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sun May 19, 2013 5:06 pm  

Okay then,I'll give you the full sp.
Munich air disaster ending the lives of players who formed part of the Busby Babes nickname.
Busby in hospital recovering.Determined to win the European Cup once he leaves hospital.
As he knows the Busby Babes moniker is finished he needs a name to spread fear throughout Europe as his team is going to be successful.
He read the name in a match report while recovering in hospital.

If somebody wants to check the Salford result for the time after the disaster I would be quite interested in knowing it.


Note to self - Well done for avoiding the Ferguson thread and suggesting Paul Stretford has been the manager.

: Sun May 19, 2013 5:07 pm  

That's the biggest creation myth of the lot mate and it is clearly not true. United were known as the Red Devils at least two years before the Munich Air Disaster.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sun May 19, 2013 7:34 pm  

Unless it's too late think that the club should put a couple of designs on the Facetube page and see which the fans prefer. Would suggest that the very traditional matchstick (sorry know idea of what else to describe it as) version would be most fans choice.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Sun May 19, 2013 8:50 pm  

It's not necessarily what existing fans want that's most important though, it's what's likely to fetch in a new generation that matters. Much as we'll all be attached to old designs (the big S, the stick men etc) the world has moved on and we have to as well.

Many older fans HATED the Rhinos name and logo at Leeds but now it's widely accepted as one of the most successful rebrands in the history of pro rugby.

The club has embraced tradition by bringing back the Red Devils moniker but in all other aspects of the branding process we need to look forward and do whatever's needed to reach out to a new, younger audience.

Re: SALFORD RED DEVILS...... : Mon May 20, 2013 5:59 am  

Nice looking devils logo http://www.northsdevils.com/

Nice looking devils logo http://www.northsdevils.com/