Re: 2,381 : Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:53 pm  

latchfordbob wrote:

I can never get comparing drummers. How can you say one is better than another. Nearly all drummers of established bands are tight on timing, so what makes one stand out over another? more complex drumming patterns?

My favourite drummers are Keith Moon, Reni & Matt Helders. Mainly due to their effortless style and that they are in three of my favourite bands.

It is very subjective. You highlight one of my other favourite drummers, I do judge them onhow dominant they are which tends to dismiss the likes of Collins due to his more percussive, background style.

The likes of Bonham was so pivotal to the sound of Led Zep, it could be argued that his was the dominant instrument. To be able to play at that speed, so loudly, yet so sweetly, puts him at the top of the tree. Reni is very similiar, but not so much at the forefront, his is certianly the dominant instrument at maintaining tempo, though.

Re: OT: Drummers : Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:56 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

from a slightly different genre i'd put forward igor cavalera.

One is particular fan of Igor... The drumming on Chaos AD and Arise in particular... and my favourite song 'dead embryonic cells' has some amazing drumming..... certainly better than phil collins anyway.

Re: OT: Drummers : Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:00 pm  

Very biased opinion, purely for my love of Tower of Power, but David Garibaldi is amazing at what he does, and has done for so long.

Underrated main stream drummer is Chad Smith, I'd put him up there with Barker and Jordison in terms of modern drummers who define their genre.

Best YT vid, got to be either Neil Peart or the Tony Royster Jr one, that one I just watched over and over again when I was starting playing with a wide open mouth in awe each time!

Re: 2,381 : Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:03 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

I think you have answered the why (Although, the beard is pretty impressive too)



I'm, actually, a bit of a fan of pre-A Trick of The Tail Genesis (or I prefer those albums). In fact, I was listening to 'Selling England by the Pound' on my way to uni this afternoon.


I am very aware of the fact you haven't mentioned Gabriel.

Fair play to you, young man. SEBTP, is one of the finest albums ever, but still a long way behind The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.

Gabriel = quality. Saw him live on the 1987 So tour. If you want a Gabriel album to listen to, I recommend his 1980 third album "Melt"....genius all the way through, until to the last track, the Godawful, Biko. What a way to ruin a fantastic album.

Re: 2,381 : Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:10 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

HELLO! John Bonham?

I never really got Bonham.
Yes, a very good drummer, but I just found his drumming TOO loud, and over produced on the records.
Death is always a good promoter of legend.

A few of my favs

Collins
Chester Thompson (Genesis live)
Neil Peart
Keith Moon

p.s. very underrated
Charlie Watts. A great sound from such a small kit

Re: 2,381 : Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:13 pm  

matt king's cat wrote:

Done Lefty. Wonder if he's still got that doubleneck?

Quality.

He used a different doubleneck for the last tour.

P.S. How did the Hackett gig go, the other week? That album of his last year, is top notch.

PPS disgruntledgoat is pulling our plonkers. It's a quote from American Psycho (I think)

Re: OT: Drummers : Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:40 pm  

nicko mcbrain got to be up there with the elite drummers , listen to him drum in the track run to the hills by iron maiden , excellent

Re: 2,381 : Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:48 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

Fair play to you, young man. SEBTP, is one of the finest albums ever, but still a long way behind The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.

Gabriel = quality. Saw him live on the 1987 So tour. If you want a Gabriel album to listen to, I recommend his 1980 third album "Melt"....genius all the way through, until to the last track, the Godawful, Biko. What a way to ruin a fantastic album.

I actually got 'Melt' before I got any Genesis stuff (and before scratch and car). I think I may have been a bit put off by Phil Collins' later solo stuff (or bought into the image of him being an annoying weirdo). But yeah, 8th July 2009, I got that album and listened to it religiously. Was one of those important purchases. I have listened to it more than any of the Genesis stuff and the other Gabriel albums. I have to agree with you too about it being close to perfection (or 'genius', as you say) and Bilko being the weakness. It isn't exactly unlistenable but it meanders a great deal and doesn't really fit in with the tone of the album. But the first side(on the vinyl) is just a series of great tracks, bookmarked by my favourites on the album ('Intruder' and 'Through the Wire')

What is your view on' Foxtrot'? I can see the improvement on 'Nursery Cryme' and I am personally a massive fan (Get 'em out by Friday' and 'Supper's Ready' are close to audio nirvana) but it isn't the completed article.

Re: OT: Drummers : Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:15 pm  

Joey Jordison

Re: OT: Drummers : Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:25 pm  

http://www.totaldrumsets.com/best-rock-drummers-2.html you guys really don't know what you're talking about, the no1 on that list is widely believed to be the best!

http://www.totaldrumsets.com/best-rock-drummers-2.html you guys really don't know what you're talking about, the no1 on that list is widely believed to be the best!