Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:20 pm  

Do you think he is done as one of the best players in the league? Watching the game against Hull, and him this season he has lost a couple of yards of pace.

It was almost embarrassing at times today how he kept shipping the ball onto a relative rookie in Tierney rather than ever running at the line, again in structured moves he just keep cutting inside and giving aimless passes to forwards.

Example of a player who was very reliant on acceleration which he won't get back, and he is still suspect under the high ball and defensively.

Its a shame for england as our two best fullbacks have gone completely off the boil.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:25 pm  

Maybe the knee injury he had as made a big difference to him.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:26 pm  

Good for Ratchford.

Tomkins looks shot, they need to try him out in the halves, he's been totally found out at FB

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:38 pm  

Some how don't see Ratch getting that gig though.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:44 pm  

As a Leeds fan, McGuire looked shot after his knee injury 2010/2011 but he adapted his game to compensate for his loss of pace. Granted he's had his struggles but he was MOM in the 2015 GF and in a lot of people's eyes e true MOM in the 2014 CC final.....but it took him time to adapt. Perhaps Tomkins can do the same but he needs to adapt quickly because Williams can't carry that team in attack on his own.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:04 pm  

Def not the player he was before he left for Aus but he's still young enough to come back to his best.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:12 pm  

It's difficult to come back bouncing mid season from the op and the time he has had out of the game.
I think we are all guilty of expecting him to be as good as he was when he laft the Pie dome.
He'll come good. I think it's likely to be after he has had a pre season though.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:04 am  

He will move up in to a half back slot before long. He has great craft and slight of hand, reads the game well also.

Re: bringing the ball back, I don't mind it to a point. If it was Gareth O'Brien handing it off to Vidot or Carney it makes perfect sense, big fella's winding up and making serious meters, but palming it off to a kid to get manhandled and pushed back doesn't add up.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:18 am  

What injury did he have? I assume one of the cruciates but he did play on with the rupture for some time.

Re: Sam Tomkins? : Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:16 am  

His attack has suffered but his defence is immense since leaving for NRL.

Different player to the one that left