FORUMS FORUMS




   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - The Players are just as much to blame as Lowes.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach698No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200916 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Sep 10 18:3015th Sep 10 18:27LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Ashton-in-Makerfield

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:47 pm  
Robbie Rotten wrote:
I'm very upset after tonight's result. It was nothing short of shambolic, and it upsets me that we put our hope for these lads to fulfill our dreams. But James Lowes' press conference afterwards is breathtaking. How he can be positive after that, after our start to the season, I don't know.

I actually feel he's taking the p'iss, I seriously can't take him seriously, I just can't understand why he would say that. I'm sick and tired of his negativity, his contradictions and his completely arrogant persona he has to him, it's hard enough being a fan and seeing the players perform like that, having a manager who's just as uninspiring as those lads is deeply upsetting. I'm truly shocked after that.


Outstanding post, I'm also very shocked as well and something needs to be changed and quick.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7121No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 07 200718 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Jan 19 07:155th Oct 17 13:47LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:53 pm  
JWP wrote:
I couldn't agree more. I actually (This will sound daft) feel very angry that he's ruining something that I love very much. It goes beyond what happens on the field during the 80 mins, I actually feel as the face of the club, he's wrecking then whole damn thing somehow.


It doesn't sound daft at all, JWP, I completely agree. When you love something so much, you can't help but be upset/angry when you see that thing being made a mockery of. We, as fans, dream of the club winning, doing well, enjoying themselves and us enjoying ourselves. Seeing that team, rock bottom in terms of confidence, and our manager slumped in his chair looking gormless all night hurts as a fan, I'm sorry but it does, and for him to come out and completely contradict everything he says/does, is like a kick in the balls.

I apologize if I sound OTT, but seeing that tonight was the last straw.
JWP 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach13016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200420 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Nov 15 16:458th Sep 12 06:58LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:02 am  
Robbie Rotten wrote:
It doesn't sound daft at all, JWP, I completely agree. When you love something so much, you can't help but be upset/angry when you see that thing being made a mockery of. We, as fans, dream of the club winning, doing well, enjoying themselves and us enjoying ourselves. Seeing that team, rock bottom in terms of confidence, and our manager slumped in his chair looking gormless all night hurts as a fan, I'm sorry but it does, and for him to come out and completely contradict everything he says/does, is like a kick in the balls.

I apologize if I sound OTT, but seeing that tonight was the last straw.


I know what you mean. It's like someone is pee'ing up your back and tell you it's raining.

If he was honest enough to come out, last week, this week, whenever. Lay his cards on the table, tell you we stank, the players were crap, tactically he was exposed and him & Wright are going to get together a Plan B, I'd still be bloody angry, but the acceptance of wrong doing I'd respect. We're all human, we all make mistakes, and thus we can relate to such things. To make out, we're just a few little tweaks away from greatness just beggars belief, and isn't consistent with reality, which I just saw with my own eyes.

I've never felt so bitter towards somebody that I don't know. It's terrible really, I'm not like that, but I really am angry at what he's doing.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7121No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 07 200718 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Jan 19 07:155th Oct 17 13:47LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:12 am  
JWP wrote:
I know what you mean. It's like someone is pee'ing up your back and tell you it's raining.

If he was honest enough to come out, last week, this week, whenever. Lay his cards on the table, tell you we stank, the players were crap, tactically he was exposed and him & Wright are going to get together a Plan B, I'd still be bloody angry, but the acceptance of wrong doing I'd respect. We're all human, we all make mistakes, and thus we can relate to such things. To make out, we're just a few little tweaks away from greatness just beggars belief, and isn't consistent with reality, which I just saw with my own eyes.

I've never felt so bitter towards somebody that I don't know. It's terrible really, I'm not like that, but I really am angry at what he's doing.



I agree. I honestly felt like he was joking, I really did, I just don't know how he came to those conclusions, especially when he spent most of his time staring into the sky.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 28 200816 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Sep 12 12:5527th Mar 12 08:49LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:15 am  
THE PLAYERS ARE NOT PERFORMING!!!

Basic player mistakes and player errors are costing Jimmy Lowes his job. I suspect tactical play developed in training has not yet been employed due to the wire playing on the back foot during most of the last three games.

It appears Jimmy is backing his players to the hilt, as you would expect. Obviously staying cool under pressure ensuring a ‘no panic’ mentality is Jimmy’s style, nothing wrong with that.

Additional unnecessary pressure added by Skent, with his probing questions to Jimmy is not helpful to Warrington. Cracks are obviously apparent with Jimmys uncomfortable demean during the interviews…. Skent to Jimmy is the BBC to Alex Ferguson.

The players need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask are they giving everything?

On a positive note the players Jimmy has brought in are performing. Higham and Carvell a pair that Jimmy can build on.

The old guard need to play catch up and produce an effort in line with Jimmys new recruits.

COME ON THE WIRE!!!!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach393No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 19 200619 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Jun 15 19:259th Apr 15 11:22LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:23 am  
The Neighbour wrote:
THE PLAYERS ARE NOT PERFORMING!!!

Basic player mistakes and player errors are costing Jimmy Lowes his job. I suspect tactical play developed in training has not yet been employed due to the wire playing on the back foot during most of the last three games.

It appears Jimmy is backing his players to the hilt, as you would expect. Obviously staying cool under pressure ensuring a ‘no panic’ mentality is Jimmy’s style, nothing wrong with that.

Additional unnecessary pressure added by Skent, with his probing questions to Jimmy is not helpful to Warrington. Cracks are obviously apparent with Jimmys uncomfortable demean during the interviews…. Skent to Jimmy is the BBC to Alex Ferguson.

The players need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask are they giving everything?

On a positive note the players Jimmy has brought in are performing. Higham and Carvell a pair that Jimmy can build on.

The old guard need to play catch up and produce an effort in line with Jimmys new recruits.

COME ON THE WIRE!!!!


carvell was a great buy !!! will be sat on his butt for weeks as predicted by the hull fans
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman19907No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 05 200223 years339th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Feb 25 09:3615th Oct 18 19:35LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.

www.squadbuilder.co.uk

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:38 am  
Are the performances due to the players following Lowes instructions or realising his techniques don't work and try to fix then?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10645No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200618 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Nov 13 14:5816th Oct 13 18:38LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Killing the Ball!
Signature
equilibriumproductions.com [WAM] - WArrington Music

WANDERER wrote:
As an outsider looking in, I have to agree about the players in terms of being to blame.

The truth is that the so-called big names are no where near as good as the hype would suggest (examples Briers, Monaghan, King & Vinnie Anderson) and the youngsters are simply not yet up to it at SL level (examples Riley, Penny, Blythe).


Not Mr Stat Attack?!


I'd like to close this post with a final comment,
Lowes out.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10645No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200618 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Nov 13 14:5816th Oct 13 18:38LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Killing the Ball!
Signature
equilibriumproductions.com [WAM] - WArrington Music

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:18 am  
The Neighbour wrote:
THE PLAYERS ARE NOT PERFORMING!!!

Basic player mistakes and player errors are costing Jimmy Lowes his job. I suspect tactical play developed in training has not yet been employed due to the wire playing on the back foot during most of the last three games. shouldn't that be worked on in preseason in maybe...oh preseason games?

It appears Jimmy is backing his players to the hilt, as you would expect. Obviously staying cool under pressure ensuring a ‘no panic’ mentality is Jimmy’s style, nothing wrong with that.If he is sticking up for them in tough times, he's had 7 months to bring players on his side. Backs against wall for a long time and no change, there not repaying him

Additional unnecessary pressure added by Skent, with his probing questions to Jimmy is not helpful to Warrington. Cracks are obviously apparent with Jimmys uncomfortable demean during the interviews…. Skent to Jimmy is the BBC to Alex Ferguson.
If a couple of tough questions are enough to unravel the coaching, then he shouldnt be in coaching of any sport, unless its tiddlywinks. Don't get that immunity until you earn it, and then it doesnt last.

The players need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask are they giving everything?

On a positive note the players Jimmy has brought in are performing. Higham and Carvell a pair that Jimmy can build on.
Not particulary, while neither were players Lowes had final say on, one is injured long term seemingly (fancy that!) and the other has seemed to regress
The old guard need to play catch up and produce an effort in line with Jimmys new recruits.
again...
COME ON THE WIRE!!!!


I'd like to close this post with a final comment,
Lowes out.
Mark 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner23178No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 21 200420 years337th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Apr 23 17:0225th Apr 23 05:39LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Greatness

: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:16 am  
Wire On The Telly wrote:
I'd like to close this post with a final comment,
Lowes out.


Bore off with that, it's very f*cking annoying.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Magic Superbeetle, ratticusfinch and 288 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Warrington Wolves


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
4m
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Barrie’s G
102
24m
TV games not Wire
ninearches
3753
24m
Barrow at home
faxcar
94
29m
Super League
FIL
136
43m
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
47m
Film game
BOSS HOG
8028
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65289
Recent
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
happyjack
113
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
Wigg'n
29263
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
5100
Recent
Hull FC A
Cherry_Warri
40
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65289
1s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
[Gareth]
3211
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
5100
3s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
happyjack
113
3s
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
5s
TV Games - Not Hull
number 6
3341
7s
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
8s
TV games not Wire
ninearches
3753
9s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41802
10s
Super League
FIL
136
11s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Barrie’s G
102
12s
Leeds v Wakefield
brantonrhino
197
13s
Film game
BOSS HOG
8028
15s
Social Media
alegend
51
17s
Hull FC A
Cherry_Warri
40
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
Smithout
1
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
Trojan Horse
6
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
WT_Midlander
8
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
Torbreck
4
TODAY
Sam Burgess
ninearches
15
TODAY
Well played wakey
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Points At Wakefield Trinity
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Is the HKR Game still on
PopTart
8
TODAY
Forum at The Shay
terry silver
45
TODAY
Matchday Food and Drink
karetaker
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
74
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
212
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
349
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
565
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
676
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
980
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
746
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
524
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
763
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
937
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
944
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
990
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
939
Betfred Super League Season Se..
1127
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
1103
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford6-32Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull FC
Sat 22nd Mar
SL
15:00
Castleford-Catalans
SL
17:30
Leeds-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL 2 Salford6-32Leeds
Fri 21st Feb
SL 2 Warrington18-12Catalans
SL 2 Hull FC4-46Wigan
Thu 20th Feb
SL2 Wakefield12-14Hull KR
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
4m
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Barrie’s G
102
24m
TV games not Wire
ninearches
3753
24m
Barrow at home
faxcar
94
29m
Super League
FIL
136
43m
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
47m
Film game
BOSS HOG
8028
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65289
Recent
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
happyjack
113
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
Wigg'n
29263
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
5100
Recent
Hull FC A
Cherry_Warri
40
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65289
1s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
[Gareth]
3211
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hasbag
5100
3s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
happyjack
113
3s
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
5s
TV Games - Not Hull
number 6
3341
7s
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
8s
TV games not Wire
ninearches
3753
9s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41802
10s
Super League
FIL
136
11s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Barrie’s G
102
12s
Leeds v Wakefield
brantonrhino
197
13s
Film game
BOSS HOG
8028
15s
Social Media
alegend
51
17s
Hull FC A
Cherry_Warri
40
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
Smithout
1
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
Trojan Horse
6
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
WT_Midlander
8
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
Torbreck
4
TODAY
Sam Burgess
ninearches
15
TODAY
Well played wakey
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Points At Wakefield Trinity
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Is the HKR Game still on
PopTart
8
TODAY
Forum at The Shay
terry silver
45
TODAY
Matchday Food and Drink
karetaker
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
74
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
212
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
349
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
565
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
676
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
980
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
746
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
524
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
763
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
937
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
944
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
990
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
939
Betfred Super League Season Se..
1127
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
1103


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!