: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:50 am  

Wireman wrote:

I'm not blaming him for yesterday's defeat in any way shape or form but if Warrington let Chris Riley leave, would Leeds, Saints, Wigan etc. sign him? I think the answer would be no. If he ain't good enough for them, he ain't good enough for us.

You could say that for most of our squad

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:13 pm  

Awful, nowhere near good enough 24 points in 2 games.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:10 pm  

Mark wrote:

Awful, nowhere near good enough 24 points in 2 games.

attitudes like this im sure are brilliant for the lad's confidence

i personally reckon for a 21 year old to put his hand up for a key position that requires a lot of confidence in a squad who seem to be lacking confidence in general is awesome and i reckon he is making a good fist of it

i'd sooner the guy be getting involved and making some high profile mistakes than hiding and not coming into anyone's attention...riley is a top prospect for the future and its games like yesterday that will add to his experience imo

he certainly wasn't the only player to be spilling a lot of ball yesterday, from either side for that matter

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:13 pm  

[quote="wireboot"]True he spurned an opportunity as well fumbling a ball which should have gone straight to Hicks

Question Where is reardon in all this ?[/quote]

My point exactly! where is this wage thief hiding? He surely can't still be injured...

Plus point from yesterday, Paul Johnson is not yet injured and out for the season

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:19 pm  

IMO yesterday showed whilst Reardon is still injured Hicks should be at Full back with Riely on the wing.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:24 pm  

Fullback is becoming a bit of a problem now.

Hicks is crap there, folk just walk past him, and I've never seen him make a break from there.

Riley isn't doing the best of jobs right now. He's making errors, which are proving costly etc. He's also joing the line, but hasn't got the handling to exploit overlaps etc, that's frustrating me at times, couple of times this happened yesterday, 3 on 2 etc, but it dies with Chris. It's easy to criticise from the stands though.

Bridge - Eek ? Would be a risk. Attacking wise you'd gain, big question mark over the defensive stuff, positioning.

Forget Reardon for a month or two.

Murphy from the academy ? Could he be the answer.

Quins scored a couple of tries against Salford with delicut grubbers behind the winger but infront of the fullback, we need to have somebody who's positional sense will get them in the right place.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:25 pm  

I'd play him at wing or, if appropriate, give him a rest. I agree with SEB, I don't think it's a confidence thing. As a full back, by the nature of the position, he's often going to be running straight into the opposition's biggest players. For someone who is relatively small, he's bound to cough up possession more than we might expect.

As an aside, I hope people don't get on his back a la Kevin Penny and that any critcism is constructive.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:39 pm  

JWP wrote:

delicut grubbers

Word of the week?

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:40 pm  

It has nothing to do with confidence, but the lad isn't up to the standard i want to see in a warrington shirt. I know people will come on and say he gives his best and i acknowledge that, but they can't keep saying he is a kid and he's learning his trade. He is twenty one years old with a season and a half nearly of first team rugby under his belt and i have yet to see enough to convince me he will be a good first team player.

: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:01 pm  

tino wrote:

attitudes like this im sure are brilliant for the lad's confidence

i personally reckon for a 21 year old to put his hand up for a key position that requires a lot of confidence in a squad who seem to be lacking confidence in general is awesome and i reckon he is making a good fist of it

i'd sooner the guy be getting involved and making some high profile mistakes than hiding and not coming into anyone's attention...riley is a top prospect for the future and its games like yesterday that will add to his experience imo

he certainly wasn't the only player to be spilling a lot of ball yesterday, from either side for that matter

happens almost every week and last season, it's costing us games.