Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:00 am  

Can not see what's wrong with what Senior has said to be honest.

five superleague clubs voted against the Stobart sponsorship as well so what does that say.....?

If you make yourself look small time people will think you are small time.

If we were willing to just settle for free advertising we should have gone with Gillette. its a premium national brand and we dont look stupid when they sponsor the four nations and suchlike....we could have had logo's on every pack of mach 3's or fusion thingy's...

instead we are sponsored by a lorry company who pay us NO MONEY ......its feckwittery of the highest order by big fat yorkshire bumpkin nigel wood.....

kin ell what next the spry crisp n dry challenge cup.

spot on Senior....

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:54 am  

It's the usual stuff where people who are barely literate are nonetheless able to tell everyone what was on the table. I like the new version, where people take a random company name out of the air and assume they're interested.

Five clubs voted against the deal - indeed. I think we in RL know that there are clubs (mostly on the wrong side of the hills) whose business model is so fragile an extra 50k makes the difference between survival and bankruptcy. More importantly, five clubs voted FOR, which they would never, ever do if they didn't perceive much wider benefits in their own interest and in those of the game.

It's all very well saying 'I would have negotiated a 30 million deal with Tesco and made sure they put a 100ft image of Kevin Sinfield on every new store' but these are very hard commercial times. I'm looking forward to seeing the Wire lorries and seeing what benefits come from it. Most rugby league 'supporters' are happy enough to bitch and moan without even vaguely trying to understand what has taken place.

And I wish people would stop giving the braindead Senior the oxygen of publicity.

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:08 pm  

I agree with Keith Senior 100%

I was a bit sceptical when i heard that Stobart were going to be the new SL sponsors, William Stobart and Andrew Tinkler are 2 very shrewd business minds, what they have achieved is incredible really but that comes at a cost.

They pay the drivers peanuts, you ask most drivers outside of Stobarts what they think of them and whether they would work for them, most would laugh and walk away.

Can someone just clear up what the exact deal is, am i right in thinking that Rugby League recieves no money at all from Stobarts ? Is it just SL branding on 100 trucks out of a fleet of over 2,000 trucks, is that the deal ?

If thats the deal then there is only one major winner here and it isn't the RFL or the sport of rugby league.

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:38 pm  

Can anybody post a list of all the other bidders for the rights?

The other week all the doomsayers were stating that there would be no sponsorship for this season.

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:54 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Can anybody post a list of all the other bidders for the rights?

It was rumoured that Betfred offered £750,000 per year to be super league's main sponsors, if thats true then the RFL could have approached Stobarts and arranged a seperate deal where they pay Stobart's to have 100 trailors kitted out in there logos.

You would have got a heck of a lot of change out of £750k by going down that route.

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:09 pm  

i've never forgiven Stobarts for when it took me 2 hours to get home from work after one of their lorrys took a dive off Junction11 on M56

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:20 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I agree with Keith Senior 100%

I was a bit sceptical when i heard that Stobart were going to be the new SL sponsors, William Stobart and Andrew Tinkler are 2 very shrewd business minds, what they have achieved is incredible really but that comes at a cost.

They pay the drivers peanuts, you ask most drivers outside of Stobarts what they think of them and whether they would work for them, most would laugh and walk away.

Can someone just clear up what the exact deal is, am i right in thinking that Rugby League recieves no money at all from Stobarts ? Is it just SL branding on 100 trucks out of a fleet of over 2,000 trucks, is that the deal ?

If thats the deal then there is only one major winner here and it isn't the RFL or the sport of rugby league.

Nope, the RFL gets no money from the deal. I read 300 trucks total so I'm assuming they will be rolling out 100 trucks per year with updated branding.

It does say alot that five of the clubs preferred Stobarts offer receiving no money over Betfairs of which they would have got a cut.

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:33 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Even if England RU don't win all the time (but they are more successful generally than their hopeless northern counterparts) their players behave with dignity and decorum unlike these league plebs.

Sally please tell me that's a tongue in cheek joke aimed at reeling in a sucker?

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:38 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

Sally please tell me that's a tongue in cheek joke aimed at reeling in a sucker?

Does he do any other kind of post?

Re: Senior at it again! : Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:41 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

It was rumoured that Betfred offered £750,000 per year to be super league's main sponsors, if thats true then the RFL could have approached Stobarts and arranged a seperate deal where they pay Stobart's to have 100 trailors kitted out in there logos.

You would have got a heck of a lot of change out of £750k by going down that route.

No, you wouldn't. It has been estimated the value of Stobart's marketing could be worth anything between £1m and £2.5m. Have a look at the thread on VT for figures backing that up. Billboards on motorways are not cheap. These are in effect mobile, huge billboards.

Also, Betfair wanted exclusivity. Stobart did not. Hence the RFL can now attract further sponsors to associate with the SL brand, a bit like UEFA do with Champions League.