Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:22 pm  

Thanks BBW
There we have it. The whole body or does that exclude the head?

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:08 pm  

on the last tackle nobody make a bee line for the player with the ball all stay in a defensive line that would confuse the hell outta the opposition

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:42 pm  

I think its a good tactic in the opponents half especially in their 25 but not in our half. The pressure and doubt it must put on the kicker is great but we seem to do it in and around our half which is wrong.

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:11 pm  

I personally think charge downs should not mean a restart to the tackle count like it doesn't constitute a knock-on. It rewards slow passing and slow kick attack and punishes expressive and right defence when the set count is re-set when the ball is charged down...bit I suppose that's another argument.

As for us doing them, it puts us in a far worse position about 7 times out of 20; often the opposition score or almost score a try on the back of it.

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:45 pm  

Under the current rules we should reserve charge-downs only for a drastic attempt to change the course of the game when we're chasing with minutes to go.

However, I think the RFL need to look at rewarding kick pressure and penalising slow/poor play from the kicking team. Best way to do this would be play on (without a reset) from the charge-down and tie in with that much stricter rules regarding contact with the kicker.

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:53 pm  

We should have a set plan not to attempt them within 40m of our try line.

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:35 pm  

Thelonius wrote:

Under the current rules we should reserve charge-downs only for a drastic attempt to change the course of the game when we're chasing with minutes to go.

However, I think the RFL need to look at rewarding kick pressure and penalising slow/poor play from the kicking team. Best way to do this would be play on (without a reset) from the charge-down and tie in with that much stricter rules regarding contact with the kicker.

I like it.

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:09 am  

High risk play that has put us under pressure and cost us games imo many times. On friday we're about to get the ball back, bang chargedown, try to leeds (although that didn't cost us the game), at wigan, just about to get the ball back. bang ormsby chargedown, scrum to wigan and they score in the next set of six (when the scores were tight). Castleford at home early in the season, two chargedowns, two tries to cas. The grand final against wigan, early 2nd half, we'd lost our winger and we need to play percentage football, 16-6 up, bang chargedown by monoghan, another set of 6 to wigan, penalty try and they're back in it. i reckon we get the rub of the green about 20% of the time.
Just leave it alone! only use if we are well ahead or times ticking on in a game we are behind in.
Good ideas get copied, what other team has followed our lead on this?

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:09 am  

norfolkngood wrote:

I know topics have been posted before about how people hate them and comments have been added recently about them and how ridiculous they are.

Am I the only one who likes them?

Sometimes they work and we get a resulting try, sometimes they don't. We don't gain possession an awful lot but probably score more tries from them than we directly concede.

There must be doubt though in most kickers minds when playing us due to our persistence with this tactic??

I for one hope they continue with them

Hi Tony

Re: Chargedowns, a fan : Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:21 am  

Charge-down 3. To charge-down a kick is permissible and is not a knock-on.