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Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:44 pm  
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    If Wigan had swapped places with Hull kr and gone down, which players would you take from that 17 tonight. ....
    I'd have gelling for evans and farrell for jack hughes. And nuisalla for any prop except hill.

    But that's it.

    Quite shocking really. ...

    What point ate you trying to make?

    Bateman, curlylocks, Charnley, Farrell, gelling, Williams and most of wigans forwards would walk into our team.

    Smiths problem is he hasn't brought in or through enough quality
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:54 pm  
    God, I'm peed off.

    A big glass of red, and two huge brandies later, I'm seriously effed off
    I forget about losses relatively quickly (within the hour, normally), but this is showing us for what we are..not good enough, at the business end of the season.
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:15 am  
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    I'd swap Evans for anything. Tackles well, but that's it.


    Again this is a myth. He has the 3rd highest missed tackles in the squad at 46/375 +12%. So cannot attack and suspect defence.
    I think we can improve on the position and give him to the chance to see if he gets a SL gig with any other side or whether he will go the way of Riley.
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:16 am  
    I'm afraid that the additions of Cooper and Crosby will not turn us into world beaters either. I hope we have got some real quality signings up our sleeve.
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:40 am  
    If the Warrington team need some motivation for 2017 they only need watch this video.
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    If the Warrington team need some motivation for 2017 they only need watch this video.
    https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 155184575/
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:46 am  
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    Firstly, well done Wigan (spits). The best side won.

    Our "pack" are too lightweight. Bar Hill, did we gain ANY metres through leg drive. Wigan MULLERED us, in this department. We're powderpuff, in comparison.

    Some dumb decisions. Iirc, didn't Atkins have his winger unmarked, when he went "over". Glory boy.

    We've lost 4 of our last 9 games. Not good.

    .......and, most controversially, MY GOD, WE'RE DULL.

    Smith has coached EVERY BIT of attractive rugby, OUT of this side. From 2010 to 2013, we've played some of the most exhilarating RL, I've ever seen. Since then, he's wrung all creativity out us, to the point that I'm bored to tears.
    All we had in the first half, was endless scoots from dummy half. TEDIUM.
    The second half (bar a couple of tackles) was like watching a fish finger defrost.

    Yes, Smith has been our best coach since Murphy left, by a country mile, but if he resigned tonight, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. As someone said as I was leaving, we play joyless rugby. I couldn't agree more.
    I go to the match to be entertained. This is the rl equivalent of 80's Italian football, dull, but (more often than not) effective.


    I can't disagree with any of that, and I know a few of us have said we need to play finals football i.e. Not to much gung Ho stuff.. But Christ that was another level of dire tonight ,we barely got the ball wide at all in the first half. It was slightly better in the second when Sandow came on. Which brings me to my next point if Sandow was fit and Smith wanted him involved he should have started ... The fact that he occupied the bench taking the place of another forward screwed us to the floor we were seriously outgunned in the pack ...

    I honestly feel a coach change would be be beneficial. To us
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:51 am  
    You can watch Gidley's miss tackle here on Farrell and Evans deserting his centre position (and Gildart) and chasing the wrong player and tell me we didn't switch off.

    https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 808515543/
    You can watch Gidley's miss tackle here on Farrell and Evans deserting his centre position (and Gildart) and chasing the wrong player and tell me we didn't switch off.

    https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 808515543/
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:07 am  
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    I'm afraid that the additions of Cooper and Crosby will not turn us into world beaters either. I hope we have got some real quality signings up our sleeve.


    I'm happy with the Cooper signing he's a quality prop, But a Wigan cast off in Crosby and also Matty Blythe?? I'm sorry but we need to be aiming higher..
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:29 am  
    I think after thousands of hours and thousands of pounds I might just about be done tonight. We finished that match tonight without one local player on the pitch.

    When we will learn what makes a team?
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    Re: Some home truths....this may hurt : Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:00 am  
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    I'm afraid that the additions of Cooper and Crosby will not turn us into world beaters either. I hope we have got some real quality signings up our sleeve.


    Couldn't agree more with this. Totally devoid of quality in the backs and if Matty Blythe is the answer to Evans total lack of quality then I really despair.

    Having said that the quality across the board in SuperLeague is utterly woeful.

    If I'd been neutral watching that last night I'd have turned it off. Mind numbingly dull and lacking in any invention whatsoever.
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