Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:01 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

Someone find the Dougie Charnock thread.

Recruiting young players with potential is obviously not going to come with a 100% success rate, but you've got to be concerned that it's probably 10 years after that thread and people are still starting threads about why Warrington have missed out young players? Charnock didn't end up a bad player either, he played Super League and now at Barrow in the Championship.

The Rylands players being talked about here are players a lot of clubs wanted. There are two or three of them in particular I know are rated very, very highly. They apparantly aren't players Warrington could have looked at and decided they didn't want. I'd love to hear someone from Rylands or Warrington explain it.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:36 am  

Good Luck to the 14 youngsters, my betting is that they have looked at the stats and thought they have a better chance signing elsewhere, as we all know we are not the best club at bringing our youth through. In another 4-5 years we will be lucky if we have any home grown talent the way things are going

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:18 am  

The recruitment and development of young players at Warrington will always receive criticism (rightly or wrongly) due to its track record of delivery and comparison with its peers less than 10 miles away.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:08 am  

We don't help ourselves at all. This Rylands team are among one of the best in the North West and have been unbeaten for about 2 years (I think). They have some very highly rated players. Warrington never even bothered to have a look and scout them from what I've heard. 13 to Saints and 1 to Wigan. We never offered any of them a contract. We have the biggest pool of talent in the region yet we are letting clubs from out of town and our rivals cherry pick who they ant first. We need to spend more time on the youth developing our own.

If only we were half as proactive at developing our academy and recruiting the best young players in the town as we are are being active on social media.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:42 am  

You can't categorically say that we never looked at them. Maybe we did, maybe we thought 'let some other schmucks bring em through and we'll buy the best ones off them later on with our incredible wealth'. Would probably make more economical sense. Looks like we concentrate more around the Oldham area - not been bad business in the past with Sculthorpe and Harris and aren't Thewlis and Dean from there?

Let's not forget this team is U14s not u16/17s - long way to go for any of these lads. Half of em will be lost to girls before the end of summer.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:35 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

'let some other schmucks bring em through and we'll buy the best ones off them later on with our incredible wealth'.

I'd be worried and disappointed if that was the mentality of the club.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:03 pm  

If Saints are signing 14 players from one Warrington club what state is junior rugby in within St Helens?

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:35 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

If Saints are signing 14 players from one Warrington club what state is junior rugby in within St Helens?

I don't think we're in any position to question clubs like Saints and Wigan when it comes to their youth development etc.

I know their are people on here who think Wire can do no wrong however given their recent record of producing and developing youngsters I'd trust Saints judgement on this one over ours.

Fact is, we have simply not been nowhere near good enough in producing youngsters. SP and KF have admitted this themselves in a recent fans forum. I don't think it's unfair at all to pose the question why we weren't interested in any of these lads from within our own town yet our two major rivals were.

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:40 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I don't think we're in any position to question clubs like Saints and Wigan when it comes to their youth development etc.

I know their are people on here who think Wire can do no wrong however given their recent record of producing and developing youngsters I'd trust Saints judgement on this one over ours.

Fact is, we have simply not been nowhere near good enough in producing youngsters. SP and KF have admitted this themselves in a recent fans forum. I don't think it's unfair at all to pose the question why we weren't interested in any of these lads from within our own town yet our two major rivals were.

Do you really believe Warrington weren't interested in any of them and never attempted to recruit them?

Re: Rylands u14 : Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:44 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Do you really believe Warrington weren't interested in any of them and never attempted to recruit them?

Warrington never offered any of them a contract. Saints and Wigan got in first. That's 100% true.