Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:47 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Not like you duckie? One or two signings announced this week and hopefully you'll be back declaring invincibility and predicting an unbeaten season. You should improve dramatically next season as Burgess won't accept the low standards that are inherent across Warrington's activity at the moment. I think you'll see a real lift. The likes of Currie, Drinkwater, Dufty, Ratchford and Williams won't have anywhere to hide, or any protection. Fitzgibbon is a great signing as well.

For the drivel saints normally spout on here this is bang on..well said for once

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:16 am  

Just a really weird season all round, lost a lot of interest in League this year and took a 4 week break at one point. So for me this year has been bad all in all.
I'm happy to see what Burgess can bring to the team, and having Gleeson stay is a big plus for me.
Crowther staying is a great signing for us, if Musgrove does sign for us i'm very happy with that. Fitzgibbon looks to be exactly what we need on the right edge.
Interested to see how centre goes next year for us. King on the right with Tai, Wrench and Bruines fighting for the left edge and putting pressure on Kings place.
Hopefully Dudson does go to Widnes, but if he goes and Kasiano leaves, we'll need to bring in at least 1 more prop.
I'm not buzzing for next year but more interested to see how we go.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:48 am  

Before the start of 2023 I was expecting to make the playoffs and maybe win one of the playoff games, with a clear indication we were building. Sadly that has not happened. If anything we have gone backwards from 2020.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:00 pm  

I will give it a 6/10

Could have been better…. Could have been worse.

We pretty much got what we deserved in the end… an early play off exit.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:11 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

I will give it a 6/10

Could have been better…. Could have been worse.

We pretty much got what we deserved in the end… an early play off exit.

I think the perception of both the season and the state of the club in general was worsened by your start. Winning so many and having the meme worthy bucket hat selfies at Catalans and the incident at the King's Head set you up for a fall. Ultimately it was McGuire's unprofessionalism and the reaction from your players to that fallout that ruined your season. Had that not happened, Powell would likely still be at Warrington and you'd have finished top 3. It might still have led to an early playoff exit as there is something missing from this Warrington side mentally, but it wouldn't have caused so much hilarity for everyone watching.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:33 pm  

I remember watching the Salford game when you were in your good run, the one where you were well behind and then mounted a comeback to win. I remember thinking your defence was looking really poor and I don't think you'll go far in knockout rugby when the business end comes to, but I thought your attack looked really good and you made good yardage consistently and showed some real tenacity to get yourself back into the game and I thought you'd likely finish top 4 and get to the semi and be a real tough beat.

No idea what happened, but you seemed to lose everything that you were doing well, particularly in attitude and application. I guess the hope is that this was all down to the camp splitting and not wanting to play for Powell any more, and it won't be an issue next year. With that being true and hopefully not having to deal with any Mikaele or Maguire situations, I think you'll be much more solid next year. The good (or well, bad) thing about super league is it doesn't actually take a huge amount of improvement to start competing as the league isn't great across the board. A few little improvements and top 4 is easily achievable.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:47 pm  

Didn’t deserve a play off spot, certainly didn’t deserve a seat at the big boy table next week. The standard of the competition masks how bad a year it actually was.

Miserable 2 year period that exposes the club’s soft centre, which runs from top to bottom, boardroom to terrace.

While we had never been closer to winning it in 2011 (I know we have progressed further, but that year was our chance and we blew it on an over eager charge down), I feel we’re back to the level of Cullen’s days. That’s the standard of the team, atmosphere in the ground and everything in between. Great pretenders.

I’m Smith’s number 1 fan, but the repercussions of the decision not to replace Briers, Hodgson, Monaghan, King, Morley, Carvell, Waterhouse with sufficient experience are still being felt today.

Burgess needs to be in the country in the next few weeks and get the blueprint for a complete attitude overhaul underway, and to start the process of making the pack functional. It’s been a complete non-starter this year. We can’t have wholesale personnel changes again, we need the coaches to coach. Burgess, King, Marshall and Gleeson have enough experience between them to make a competent coaching network, we have world class facilities and a few (potentially) excellent players in key positions (Dufty, Williams, Vaughan, Ashton, Currie, Fitzgibbon) but they need to be prepared better than they were for the last 2 years, motivated and engaged. It’s time for the coaches and S&C staff to get this rabble into shape.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:02 pm  

Relieved it's all over, we were poor after we met Wigan and Saints the first time round in the regular season, and looked clueless as to how to beat them. SL is now a joyless game, and NRL is so far in front of it in terms of skill and speed of their game. The observed 10 meters at the play the ball makes it flow so much better than our game.

DP has been a disaster as head coach, and it's going to take some time to turn round. I expected that we'd finish between 7th and 4th, so on that note I'm not disappointed, however it's a 4/10 for me, as we never looked that we had the ability of beating Wigan or Saints whether it mattered, or not, and never looked like contenders to win the GF.

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:46 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Before the start of 2023 I was expecting to make the playoffs and maybe win one of the playoff games, with a clear indication we were building. Sadly that has not happened. If anything we have gone backwards from 2020.

Definitely gone backwards from 2020, and that was a time when we were in peak frustration with Steve Price.

Another counterfactual to use as comparison is how would these last 6 years have gone if we had just kept Tony Smith in charge, like Arsenal did dragging out Arsene Wenger for so long. By the end of 2017 even TS had acknowledged it was time to part ways but if we had kept Smith would the results over the last 6 years have been that different?

Re: That’s it, all done. Your reflection of season 2023 (& 2 : Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:19 pm  

I was rather suprised to see Moran in the crowd yesterday.

We obviously owe him a lot, but it did smack a little of a failure to read the room. Anyone with genuine empathy with the fanbase would know its not a happy camp, hasn't been for a few years and a lot of the blame is (rightly) being aimed at his management team.

Or maybe he and the board are blissfully unaware of the mood of the fans. Would explain a lot.