Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:07 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Drop him then

Didn`t realise that posters on here could do that?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:11 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Didn`t realise that posters on here could do that?

oh yeah, its next to the report and ignore facilities that no one on here seems to know about either.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:12 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Didn`t realise that posters on here could do that?

I read in context, you’d see quite clearly that it refers to earlier comments re: Cooper being a bad Apple/disruptive influence/prioritising private businesses yet still being picked week on week.

For clarity, IF he is, as above, not considered suitable to stay with the club, then why is he picked week? Joe Bullock was in the squad, he is a Powell signing, why not play him over the bad apple?

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:14 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

I read in context, you’d see quite clearly that it refers to earlier comments re: Cooper being a bad Apple/disruptive influence/prioritising private businesses yet still being picked week on week.

For clarity, IF he is, as above, not considered suitable to stay with the club, then why is he picked week? Joe Bullock was in the squad, he is a Powell signing, why not play him over the bad apple?

Have you ever watched Joe Bullock play?

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:14 pm  

Is Cooper a bad apple or have fans added 2 and 2 to get 5? Powell doesn't see him as part of his future plans, Cooper is moving on. No big deal. We do need him for the rest of this year, though.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:19 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Have you ever watched Joe Bullock play?

We’re hitting the same point. Cooper is a great prop, we have a great prop, but we are letting him go and replacing him with lesser players.

The justification to date is that he isn’t committed fully, or is a bad apple. If that is true he shouldn’t be in the team. If it’s NOT true, I would like to understand why we are not offering a contract, of any value, to our only great prop.

We let go our other great prop and replace him with Bullock, who isn’t good enough to get in the 17, so you’ll understand my scepticism when trusting the current regime with recruiting front rowers.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:48 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

Is Cooper a bad apple or have fans added 2 and 2 to get 5? Powell doesn't see him as part of his future plans, Cooper is moving on. No big deal. We do need him for the rest of this year, though.

I think most seem to have come to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that the squad is full of bad apples and we’ve got a militant set of players with a chip on their shoulder.

Nothing to do with actual ability, coaching, team selection, or tactics, just a squad full of bad apples.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:04 pm  

Cooper to agent “any chance you can get me out of here fast? I’ve been running my tripes to water and am being slagged off as a “bad apple”. Thanks”

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:12 pm  

DAG wrote:

I think most seem to have come to the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that the squad is full of bad apples and we’ve got a militant set of players with a chip on their shoulder.

Nothing to do with actual ability, coaching, team selection, or tactics, just a squad full of bad apples.

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2017 when we ended up the in the middle 8's?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2019 when we went on a losing streak of 6 games when we had given up after winning the cup?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused us to exit the play offs at the first hurdle 2019, 2020 and 2021?

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused a player to turn up to an international airport without a passport?

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:31 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2017 when we ended up the in the middle 8's? Coaching and team selection. Smith openly admits he had gotten stale, and at that point we weee reliant on scooting from dummy half to create anything. But for Hiku, there was no creativity in the team all told.

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics in 2019 when we went on a losing streak of 6 games when we had given up after winning the cup? Coaching. Plan A worked a treat, Austin went off like a rocket but there was no plan b. That is broadly accepted.

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused us to exit the play offs at the first hurdle 2019, 2020 and 2021? Tough one, I think that is more of a mental resilience thing. Playoffs is a different game, as Leeds have demonstrated. It’s about who cracks first, and it’s us. I thought that by not offering Price new terms, that was what we were looking to address

Was it bad coaching, team selection, or tactics that caused a player to turn up to an international airport without a passport? Well that is human error. Toby King and Josh Charnley are guilty of similar this year by all accounts. But, I believe there is more to that, as the club would have booked the travel and gather passport information etc. if it was owing to being a limited period left on a passport, but it is still technically valid, then that could have been picked up by the admin staff. But still, human error.