Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:49 am  

Hughes, Currie and Westerman are a mobile, hard working back three all with ball playing ability.

They will also tighten our defence considerably.

Great signing IMHO.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:51 am  

Im also happy with this signing.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:22 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

Im also happy with this signing.

me too.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:49 am  

and me

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:09 am  

Our pack now has the following home trained players:

Hill
Clarke
.......... An Aussie
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Forward Subs/squad
Westwood
Laithwaite
Philbin
Wilde
King G
Dwyer
Harrison
Evans B

I think that it is quite impressive. In their own way they are all pretty decent players with a lot to give, I know Westwood is in the twilight years but when he backed up properly he can still be awesome for us.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:38 am  

Snaggletooth wrote:

Our pack now has the following home trained players:

Hill
Clarke
.......... An Aussie
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Forward Subs/squad
Westwood
Laithwaite
Philbin
Wilde
King G
Dwyer
Harrison
Evans B

I think that it is quite impressive. In their own way they are all pretty decent players with a lot to give, I know Westwood is in the twilight years but when he backed up properly he can still be awesome for us.

Its a good 'British' pack. We need to see more club trained players progressing in to the first team now. Its good to see most players outside of the first 17 are former academy players rather than those developed elsewhere - I'd just like to see more of them progress through now moving forward.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:55 am  

Snaggletooth wrote:

Our pack now has the following home trained players:

Hill
Clarke
.......... An Aussie
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Forward Subs/squad
Westwood
Laithwaite
Philbin
Wilde
King G
Dwyer
Harrison
Evans B

I think that it is quite impressive. In their own way they are all pretty decent players with a lot to give, I know Westwood is in the twilight years but when he backed up properly he can still be awesome for us.

Looking at your list (shouldn't we have "....An Aussie" on the bench too?) I agree that we are looking fairly decent in the pack.

Never mind the signings, (hopefully Westerman can be our new Grix), with Evans coming back in after last year on the side lines, not to mention Laithwaite's injury woes we will have Wilde, Philbin, King and Dwyer with another year under their belts. This should give us more ability to spread the load, manage the game time of Harrison and Westwood and not burn Hill out and should see us more effective up front.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:58 am  

Snaggletooth wrote:

Our pack now has the following home trained players:

Hill
Clarke
.......... An Aussie
Currie
Hughes
Westerman

Forward Subs/squad
Westwood
Laithwaite
Philbin
Wilde
King G
Dwyer
Harrison
Evans B

I think that it is quite impressive. In their own way they are all pretty decent players with a lot to give, I know Westwood is in the twilight years but when he backed up properly he can still be awesome for us.

In my humble opinion the following are currently way off the standard of a top 4 side. I also do not care whether they are home grown or not.

Laithwaite
King G
Dwyer
Evans B
Wilde

Remember we need to compare the 2nd rowers with the likes of Liam Farrell, Joel Tompkins, Carl Ablett, LMS. Chalk and cheese.

The forum seems to be full of pre-season hopes and dreams of very average home grown players as if they are superstars. The hopes are soon dashed when, like last season, reality bites.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:19 am  

Wires71 wrote:

In my humble opinion the following are currently way off the standard of a top 4 side. I also do not care whether they are home grown or not.

Laithwaite
King G
Dwyer
Evans B
Wilde

Remember we need to compare the 2nd rowers with the likes of Liam Farrell, Joel Tompkins, Carl Ablett, LMS. Chalk and cheese.

The forum seems to be full of pre-season hopes and dreams of very average home grown players as if they are superstars. The hopes are soon dashed when, like last season, reality bites.

"Way Off" is a bit harsh in my humble opinion, particularly on the basis that all things being equal, (could we have a worse run of injuries than last?) with the exception of Dwyer, would you name all of these lads in a week in week out 17? Not really, but, what was apparent from last year, IMO it was that it wasn't the young lads that let us down.

Also, would you want J Tomkins here not for me thanks, nor LMS or next season's Ablett (another year on the clock, I'm not Mystic Meg)?

If we can't have hopes and dreams now when can we have them? If they are dashed again, we learn our lessons, regroup and move on.

Re: Joe westerman : Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:30 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

If they are dashed again, we learn our lessons, regroup and move on.

LOL it happens every year. No wonder other clubs take the mickey of us. Talking up our average players as superstars.

I am not commenting about how many play at once, I am talking about the quality of each individual currently compared against those who play for the elite 4 teams in ESL. In my view they are way off.

I've heard it for years and years - the next great hope from Basil Richards onwards. Uncannily Warrington have a knack of developing players that are too slow / not creative enough for centre and too lightweight for the 2nd row.

Think of the amount who have passed through our ranks like that.