Re: Powel has been sacked : Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:39 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

The season he got sacked he had the likes of Phil Blake, John Woods, Des Drummond, Steve Roach, Les Davidson and Mike Gregory at his disposal and couldn't get a tune out of them.

Yes, his years in charge (not even 3 years) were eventful and often entertaining, but he came up short as much as anyone else since when it came to getting consistent success.

To be fair, Roach was performing like a forerunner to Gil Dudson and Blake wasn't here the full season but certainly things seemed to go awry for Tony when it came to handling big egos.

Maybe they thought they were better than the coach, didn't respect him, downed tools and got him the sack.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:51 am  

Wires71 wrote: :lol: One of our very few Warrington coaches that actual won a trophy and one of only 3 Warrington coaches that had a win rate above 60% with Price and Smith. I think your description above would be more apt for Paul Cullen. https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/team ... aches.html not to be pedantic or splitting hairs. I think TB success came as a caretaker coach with Boyd as a playing assistant. We reverted back to an Ashcroft type team soon after the sacking reaction spike. In reality, that was a GF win in another era.

Wires71 wrote: :lol: One of our very few Warrington coaches that actual won a trophy and one of only 3 Warrington coaches that had a win rate above 60% with Price and Smith. I think your description above would be more apt for Paul Cullen. https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/team ... aches.html not to be pedantic or splitting hairs. I think TB success came as a caretaker coach with Boyd as a playing assistant. We reverted back to an Ashcroft type team soon after the sacking reaction spike. In reality, that was a GF win in another era.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:59 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

In reality, that was a GF win in another era.

Yet it wasn't. You play by the rules of the time and Halifax were crowned champions a month earlier.

The premiership was just an end of season knockabout after the serious stuff of the league and Challenge Cup was concluded.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:21 pm  

I’m just looking forward to the book.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:39 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

not to be pedantic or splitting hairs.

I think TB success came as a caretaker coach with Boyd as a playing assistant.
We reverted back to an Ashcroft type team soon after the sacking reaction spike.

Over his entire tenure (2.5 years?) his win rate was 63% or so.

Only bettered by Price and Smith in near on 40 years.

I am very fond of that period as a young boy I went home and away with my Dad. We had a tough pack and took no crap. So maybe i have rose tinted spectacles.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:53 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

I am very fond of that period as a young boy I went home and away with my Dad. We had a tough pack and took no crap. So maybe i have rose tinted spectacles.

Yes, it was a great time to watch Wire. The period between October 1986-January1987 was probably the best quality RL I've ever seen a Wire side play - Sadly, it was very brief, which is why I don't go OTT when remembering Tony Barrow. He was a good coach, but like most of our history, it delivered less than it promised.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:57 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Yes, it was a great time to watch Wire. The period between October 1986-January1987 was probably the best quality RL I've ever seen a Wire side play - Sadly, it was very brief, which is why I don't go OTT when remembering Tony Barrow. He was a good coach, but like most of our history, it delivered less than it promised.

Honest question do you think us fans cared less then than we do now though.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:03 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Honest question do you think us fans cared less then than we do now though.

We didn't have the internet, did we, where everyone blows a gasket at the slightest loss of form, or poor performance?...

Seriously though, I think we did care as much. I also think the Wire crowd, though less in number, was a lot more knowledgeable and understood the ups and downs of the game a lot more than the modern fan.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:07 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

We didn't have the internet, did we, where everyone blows a gasket at the slightest loss of form, or poor performance?...

Seriously though, I think we did care as much. I also think the Wire crowd, though less in number, was a lot more knowledgeable and understood the ups and downs of the game a lot more than the modern fan.

Fair answer, the question was a bit tongue in cheek.

Re: Powel has been sacked : Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:50 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

We didn't have the internet, did we, where everyone blows a gasket at the slightest loss of form, or poor performance?...

Seriously though, I think we did care as much. I also think the Wire crowd, though less in number, was a lot more knowledgeable and understood the ups and downs of the game a lot more than the modern fan.

Lot more vocal too by a long, long way. It was tribal.