Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:21 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

No wonder Nicholson wants out.

The arrogance on him thinking he can just stroll back to Wigan is astounding. We were gutted to lose him but have moved on and are developing other forwards.

He should have been patient and had faith that Wigan knew how to develop him.

Making him an 80 minute player week in week out at his age probably wasn’t the way to go hence the injuries he’s had.

He’ll stick around a Wire until the NRL want him I reckon

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:32 am  

Wires71 wrote:

It is knee jerk though? We havent played well since April

You’re wasting your time mate. We could lose every game from now till the end of the season and there’s a couple on here who would still defend them. You have to remember this is a very, very average Wigan team and they ran away with it.

Barring Thewlis, Ashton, Wrench, Williams, Walker, Vaughan I would you really be that bothered if any others left?

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:36 am  

How do we recruit quality players when we're playing crap and have a well below expectations of a clueless management setup.
Fitzgibbon I reckon will end up at an NRL club next season saves him stating he's homesick when he realises he's coming to a nsw quality team.
It's just rank....

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:27 am  

NSW wrote:

The arrogance on him thinking he can just stroll back to Wigan is astounding. We were gutted to lose him but have moved on and are developing other forwards.

He should have been patient and had faith that Wigan knew how to develop him.

Making him an 80 minute player week in week out at his age probably wasn’t the way to go hence the injuries he’s had.

He’ll stick around a Wire until the NRL want him I reckon

The injuries he's had???

What injuries has he had that are due to overplaying him?

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:16 am  

I'm really losing patience in Powell, he was supposed to bring a change of culture, yet the same negatives are still evident that have been there for years, apart from a few years of the Tony Smith era. Making things easy for the opposition with stupid penalties or unforced errors, clueless in attack in the opposition 20m, lack of game management and the inability to turn the screw on a team once ahead.
I still wouldn't feel confident with us 10 points ahead with 15 minutes to go against any team in the league just now.
I can't see next season being any better.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:08 am  

Powell still banging on about missing players. Thinks he should have a full squad at this time of the year and anything less justifies your results.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:24 am  

The missing players excuse was justified a few weeks ago, when we had a lot of forwards out and couldn’t really compete against bigger, better packs. Last night we were missing a winger, a stand off and a second row.

The pack got dominated, our kicking game was non-existent and we were ill disciplined throughout. A bit of Clark brilliance made a game of it in the first half, but once they got into stride we couldn’t keep up with them in any area. I

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:59 am  

Barbed Wire wrote:

The missing players excuse was justified a few weeks ago, when we had a lot of forwards out and couldn’t really compete against bigger, better packs. Last night we were missing a winger, a stand off and a second row.

The pack got dominated, our kicking game was non-existent and we were ill disciplined throughout. A bit of Clark brilliance made a game of it in the first half, but once they got into stride we couldn’t keep up with them in any area. I

Imagine what we will look like without Clark.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:22 am  

To suggest dropping him after he is still returning, both physically and mentally, from such an injury is bizarre. An upheaval in key positions that would be changed back just as partnerships are forming doesn’t make sense. It could also lead to the player looking at exit options earlier, thinking that no one wants him at the club.

Quote from an online article re: Lewis Dodds at Saints, his return from injury, criticism from fans and return to form. The St Helens club and coaching staff stood by him throughout.

Personally, I think Dodds is pretty average but that isn't the issue. Until we start nurturing our youngsters as opposed to scapegoating them, we are doomed to fail.

We are pretty spoilt for reasons to dislike the club currently, but personally I detest the treatment the like of Dean has received.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan. : Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:27 am  

You’ll get some saying it’s the fans that won’t have patience with young players….utter garbage, it’s cowardly coaching that’s the problem. Powell is a ruddy disaster.