Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:04 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Watson has obviously decided that he doesn`t want/rate King, since King already had a season long loan at Huddersfield.

It will be interesting to see how King goes at Wigan, until the end of the season.

Maybe he does want him but the contract for next season is the issue? Or maybe Wigan want him more? Either way I have a feeling Toby King will show his worth in the wigan colours.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:16 pm  

Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:33 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.

King could play well in the current Wigan team, where Field and French are terrorising defences with their footwork and pace.

When they played us at the HJ, the gaps they created, made Iain Thornley look brilliant and he completely dominated Toby King.

I too want Wardle to sign a permanent deal for Wire, which would include a transfer fee to Huddersfield.

It could be that Wigan won`t pay a transfer fee and hence they have moved to sign King instead?

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:34 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

Who have Huddersfield got for next year? Cudjoe and Naiqama?

Bibby, and another NRL centre joining in Masters.

Unless something has changed in the last 10 days Wardle was 100% a Wigan player for next season.

Stranger things have happened that he may now have turned his back on that deal but Wire would have to pay for it, ie to Wigan.

It does happen. I know of 1 club who have signed a player from his current club and are now offering him back to them as they can secure a better player for a fee of £60k.

I’m 100% confident though that 10 days ago Wardle had agreed terms and signed a pre contract agreement with Wigan. Wardle cannot go back to Hudds due to his relationship with Watson.

Leutele was nailed on for Leigh, with McDonald going to Leeds, not sure if he had signed for Leigh though, maybe you have gone in for him?

Interesting how this all plays out over the next weeks/months.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:02 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Let’s hope so as his worth is not much. Wardle is a much better centre, if King going to Wigan means we get Wardle I think we can all agree we’ve got the better deal.

King is a lot better a player than most of our fans give credit for. Wigan wouldn't have taken him if he wasn't.

I prefer Wardle though and would be delighted if we signed him. I think we need 2 centres though, I'm not really keen on Mata'utia to be honest I don't see what he brings to the plate other than being fairly solid, we would have been better off keeping mamo IMO. We need more control in our halves as well, a player with a tactical game because we don't seem to dictate where games will be played. Dean is the best choice of what we have in the first team squad currently, Leon Hayes could be worth a go but Williams and ratchford is 100% not the answer.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pm  

jonh wrote:

Bibby, and another NRL centre joining in Masters.

Unless something has changed in the last 10 days Wardle was 100% a Wigan player for next season.

Stranger things have happened that he may now have turned his back on that deal but Wire would have to pay for it, ie to Wigan.

It does happen. I know of 1 club who have signed a player from his current club and are now offering him back to them as they can secure a better player for a fee of £60k.

I’m 100% confident though that 10 days ago Wardle had agreed terms and signed a pre contract agreement with Wigan. Wardle cannot go back to Hudds due to his relationship with Watson.

Leutele was nailed on for Leigh, with McDonald going to Leeds, not sure if he had signed for Leigh though, maybe you have gone in for him?

Interesting how this all plays out over the next weeks/months.

Wardle is not a free agent, so Huddersfield would have to release him from his current contract which doesn`t expire until the end of 2023.

Your post doesn`t mention Huddersfield, so unless they have agreed to give him a free transfer, or sell him to Wigan, his signature on a pre contract agreement to Wigan would be worthless.

If Warrington sign Wardle from Huddersfield for a transfer fee, I can`t see how Wigan could be entitled to a transfer fee too?

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:29 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Wardle is not a free agent, so Huddersfield would have to release him from his current contract which doesn`t expire until the end of 2023.

Your post doesn`t mention Huddersfield, so unless they have agreed to give him a free transfer, or sell him to Wigan, his signature on a pre contract agreement to Wigan would be worthless.

If Warrington sign Wardle from Huddersfield for a transfer fee, I can`t see how Wigan could be entitled to a transfer fee too?

Wigan had agreed a deal with the player and paperwork had been signed, presumably pre contract but who knows.

For this to happen Huddersfield must have given permission so were happy for the player and club to talk. Not sure if that involves a fee or an agreement a player may be heading their way or Giants just wanted him off the cap.

Watson and Wardle have had a total break down in relationship over where position and side of the field Wardle was to play going forward. Him signing for Wigan started the chain of events leading to the King swap.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:21 pm  

So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:24 pm  

Kevin Turvey wrote:

So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!

You can’t ignore the fact you have gone big on forwards for next year.

I’m assuming you will be looking to try move on some contracted Props but the cap is going to be tight particularly as it stands.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:37 pm  

Kevin Turvey wrote:

So at the moment we have one established centre (Mata’utia) for the start of 2023 given Wrench’s injury, Minikin’s status as a back up squad player and uncertainty around Wardle’s availability. Outside backs and an organising half back please!

It looks to me that Wardle, will be playing for Wire next season.

I have heard that we are trying to secure another halfback for 2023 season, but I still want to give Riley Dean a gig there and if we do sign another halfback, why on earth have we retained Stephan Ratchford for another 2 years?