Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Sun May 14, 2023 10:19 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

I reckon the idea was that the full penalty slowed the game up ... but as normally happens teams cheat & take advantage of ill thought out laws. I suppose attacking sides might sometimes like six again when they've got a roll on.

In my view awarding another six tackles at the point of infringement is nowhere near as punitive as a penalty which is either a chance of two points or another set of six tackles 30 odd yards down the field. So in effect the rule change has removed a big disincentive to slowing the play the ball therefore, as mentioned, teams are gaming the rule.

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 10:27 am  

Wires71 wrote:

In my view awarding another six tackles at the point of infringement is nowhere near as punitive as a penalty which is either a chance of two points or another set of six tackles 30 odd yards down the field. So in effect the rule change has removed a big disincentive to slowing the play the ball therefore, as mentioned, teams are gaming the rule.

I’d go further W71 I think it actively encourages holding down early in the tackle count. Teams appear to be coached accordingly…without exception…just some are better at not getting caught …

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 10:46 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

I’d go further W71 I think it actively encourages holding down early in the tackle count. Teams appear to be coached accordingly…without exception…just some are better at not getting caught …

You would like to think if us mere fans can see this so can the RFL and do something about it.

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 10:57 am  

If we keep the set restart, then why not have the ref march the offending team back 20m instead of 10m?
If the offence is made inside the offending teams half, then it becomes a full penalty, with the option to kick for 2.

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 1:07 pm  

Just scrap this 6 again and award a penalty..it's either a kick at goal or a kick for territory..simple..

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 1:22 pm  

The more simplified rules the better . Many a time a six again hooter can't be heard & spectators are left wondering what's going on , a penalty is much easier all round. One fault with the game is the constant rule changes many of which get ignored completely by refs as seasons progress.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 1:30 pm  

sir adrian morley wrote:

Just scrap this 6 again and award a penalty..it's either a kick at goal or a kick for territory..simple..

Whilst I initially liked the 6 again law, despite some inconsistency in its enforcement, it speeded the game up when teams were on a roll. Whereas now, the defending teams are using it cynically on the first to rest, reset and slow the whole game down when it suits.

I tend to agree with you and would favour scrapping it rather than others that would opt for a rethink as simple is best IMO. Making it a penalty IF it's on the first, or in your own half, or if you've got red in your kit is too convoluted and deliberately committing an offence (where we are now), needs to proportionately penalised. .

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 3:22 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Whilst I initially liked the 6 again law, despite some inconsistency in its enforcement, it speeded the game up when teams were on a roll. Whereas now, the defending teams are using it cynically on the first to rest, reset and slow the whole game down when it suits.

I tend to agree with you and would favour scrapping it rather than others that would opt for a rethink as simple is best IMO. Making it a penalty IF it's on the first, or in your own half, or if you've got red in your kit is too convoluted and deliberately committing an offence (where we are now), needs to proportionately penalised. .

Exactly. The irony of it being brought in to speed the game up too.

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 3:25 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Exactly. The irony of it being brought in to speed the game up too.

The big issue is it’s mostly on the 1st tackle so the attacking team as just lost the ball and they have to stop the other team making yardage, once upon a time penalty and kick to touch but now teams use it to reset the defence. It’s got to go.

Re: Tonight’s game v HKR : Mon May 15, 2023 4:52 pm  

NRL version of penalty if it's in your own 40?