Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:15 pm  

The Railwayman wrote:

That's a shame if true. I still think there is a good player in there somewhere. When he first burst onto the scene I thought he looked a real talent. He doesn't seem to have had many chances since and / or kicked on.

1. Is that a problem with our coaching team who can't develop further the skills and roles of young talent ?
2. Is it an issue with the player not putting in the hard graft ?
3. Do we have a surplus of talent in his role and can afford to only keep the best whoever they may be ?

If he does go to HKR with TS in the hot seat that's interesting if potentially a bit depressing as TS was in charge when he came through and must see something in him. Either that or he is cheap and HKR are skint

I suppose that it is these types of decisions our coaching staff are paid to manage but sometimes you wonder how interesting it would be to be a fly on the appropriate wall

1) Must be true. The amount of young players that break through into the side, play 30+ games, then end up leaving to lower RL clubs is very high. Our conversion rate is very low.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:03 pm  

Or is part of the problem that warrington is a cash cow and young players see more senior players or imports earning a higher wages and think right I want £xxk per year. From what I hear there are a number of players that have moved on under those circumstances.
I think the money that we pay out gives us a problem.
Look at the Wigan team and look at all of the positions and I reckon that there will be only 1/2 positions where we think that the Wigan player in that shirt is on more than the Warrington equivalent.
I know we don't know the contract values but I would be surprised if it is any more than 2. Yet the bulk of their squad has a man drawer full of GF rings.
We are a gravy train but we have put ourselves in that position chasing the Holy grail.

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:57 pm  

Cryptic message just put on by the club in FaceB. Looks like Gelling is being announced at 7. Slightly underwhelming

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:29 pm  

BIAW! wrote:

Cryptic message just put on by the club in FaceB. Looks like Gelling is being announced at 7. Slightly underwhelming

Yeah i thought that, GEL loves Orange Soda. That's what popped in to my head anyway, not a massive fan but i'll wait to see what he does in Primrose & Blue before i make a final Judgement

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:07 pm  

Well just been announced and think il go back to watching paint dry.

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:25 pm  

Keanan Brand is the better of the 2 signings.

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:55 pm  

Jack Napier wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger, but: I'm told Gelling to sign for next year. To be announced on Wednesday.

Heard it from a Widnes fan who has club connections.

Never in doubt . . .

Even if the news was 130 days late . . .

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:24 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

1) Must be true. The amount of young players that break through into the side, play 30+ games, then end up leaving to lower RL clubs is very high. Our conversion rate is very low.

Or it could be that they just aren't good enough players, ie we don't identify and sign up players of the required talent.

If the problem was that we were bringing through genuine talent, but unable to take it to the next level ourselves, then guys who we released would get picked up by other clubs and show us what they can do in the right environment.

Of those young players that you mention who have come through in to our team and played 30+ games, how many would have played that many games at Wigan, Saints or Leeds (bearing in mind the competition they would have had from the young players at those clubs).

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:37 pm  

Forgive me if I don't call the council for ticker tape parades, resulting in road closures, after the signing of a Wigan reject from two years ago.
We've now got a "big personality for the dressing room". Well #### me backwards. To say I won't lose sleep, is an understatement.
NZ Warriors didn't want him, Widnes can't afford him.

So, our centres for next year, are
Gelling
One trick King
and the bloke from Union, that looks lost.

Whoopy flippin do

Re: Rumours 2 : Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:28 pm  

Well finally the cats are out the bag. Obviously these signings (Brand & Gelling) where done close to 5 months ago. With the possible departure of Patton & Livett surely we must be signing a prop and possibly one other forward.

Let’s hope the next signing’s are ‘major’ as so far we have recruited - 2 young talented championship players, 1 wigan prop that couldn’t get near their team, an experienced centre that’s plagued with injuries & on the decline and Widdop. It’s a rather mixed bag to say the least, even though the average age of the squad for next season has probably gone down, we are still lacking the firepower and drive in the pack to make us a force along side St Helens next season.