[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:47 am  

I won't repeat what has been said already, plenty of good comments IMO, but I would say the team looked tired /jaded to me, presumably the shortage in the pack and last weeks game contributed. But one issue for me is the lack of depth in the squad. Wigan hold a significant advantage in this respect, and that is likely to be important at the business end of the season.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:48 am  

One thing that irks me (well quite a lot irks me actually, but lets stick to the point) is the number of posts here and elsewhere questioning the players desire last night?

Heavily outgunned and in tough conditions I thought they ran their blood to water, to a man. Some didn't perform as well as in previous weeks but the effort, desire and commitment was still plain to see.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:51 am  

fez1 wrote:

Surprised that DP has said we might be getting 1 prop back next week - Harrison presumably

Harrison has just been selected in the England squad, so he must be imminent, which would be a big boost.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:09 am  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

One thing that irks me (well quite a lot irks me actually, but lets stick to the point) is the number of posts here and elsewhere questioning the players desire last night?

Heavily outgunned and in tough conditions I thought they ran their blood to water, to a man. Some didn't perform as well as in previous weeks but the effort, desire and commitment was still plain to see.

Have there been many? I haven't noticed any. I agree about the effort and desire: if that hadn't been evident we would have conceded a landslide score.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:09 am  

We looked that tired I reckon Wakefield could have kept us scoreless in that second half. Wigan can enjoy their win, but to only score 2 tries(one debatable)against a team they completely dominated isn't that impressive. Salford would've put 30 odd points on us last night. After watching that game I reckon the happiest fans will be those of Hull kr and Salford who will think they have a genuine chance this year.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:49 am  

Brick with eyes wrote:

For your Harrison Bullock Dudson Philbin , I’ll give you Field Cust Cooper Smithies

Cooper isn’t coming back soon, which of the other 3 are props?

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:01 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Cooper isn’t coming back soon, which of the other 3 are props?

Singleton injured in the first 5 minutes meaning we were down a prop and had to run with 16 men for 70 odd minutes.

All this we had so and so missing is really poor from a section of fans.

Wigan had a number of key players out an injury affected prop rotation and at one point had 2 specialist 9s on the field…with neither playing at 9.

I’ve even read some bleating on about losing Mickael and him not being replaced, whose choice was that? Wigan never replaced Bateman who was obviously a part of the plans for 2023.

You had a lot of salary cap on the field in your middles.

Both teams had players sat in the stands.

You lost to a team that were better on the day and who produced a dominant display despite losing a middle early in the game, having 2 out one injured and one suspended.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:13 am  

There are a lot of positives to take from last nights game in terms of commitment and effort.
I hope the team will learn a lot from last nights game in terms of playing wet weather rugby. we were dragged into touch a couple of times, couple of risky offload and a few uncharacteristic errors.

I was surprised that considering how light we were in the pack that Russell did not start the game. I like Thewlis and think he will have a big future here but we have had a real lesson in the last 2 weeks whereby Wigan and Catalans 3/4 have gained at least 10 metres on every carry. Matautia and Ashton were pretty good in that department (apart from a couple of rare errors from matautia) but in games where we are light in the pack and need some go forward I would pick Russell over Thewlis every day.
Thewlis did nothing wrong, just Russell's Carrie's eat up more metres and usually result in a quick PTB that we really needed last night.
Also a little bit disappointed in the use of Lucas Green. I think he got 10 mins in that first half and nobody would give him the ball. I think he had 0 carries. If we are introducing players like that my feeling is that he needs to be alongside players full of energy that can cover for him not after 25 mins when they are starting to lose energy, I would have put him on from the start alongside a fresh Vaughan, Maguire and walker and given him 10-15 mins and then let Kassiano replace him.

All good though and a couple of extra forwards to rotate and learn some lessons and another game like that might end up with a different result.

Full credit to Wigan though. They are very well drilled

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:17 am  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

I won't repeat what has been said already, plenty of good comments IMO, but I would say the team looked tired /jaded to me, presumably the shortage in the pack and last weeks game contributed. But one issue for me is the lack of depth in the squad. Wigan hold a significant advantage in this respect, and that is likely to be important at the business end of the season.

We won’t be short at the back end.

To win SL you need 2 packs, we won’t be short. We had some bad fortune, but it can be easily managed very soon.
Can’t see us loosing another game, but I did see that coming last night.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:35 am  

Clear momentum for that first try. Think all video refs were understandable but he rushed them all, like he was on the clock. The second try could at least have been looked at from another angle. Same for the Vaughan knock on. He should have checked side on to see if it went backwards (it didn’t).

Definitely a positive performance considering everything. Imagine what the score would have been last season with so many props out or even under Price.