Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:04 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Can’t see us loosing another game, but I did see that coming last night.

You really need to look up the term humility, Duckie...

You were actually predicting we'd be 10 wins out of 10, yet, without a shred of shame, you now claim to have seen last night's loss coming...

No doubt after our next loss, you will have conveniently forgotten about this latest nonsense prediction of not losing another game?

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:10 am  

I haven't seen any replays or video ref decisions but Wigan laid a marker down early on with their first try . We had the age old problem of being on the back foot for most of the game as Wigan played front foot rugby & there must have been at least 80% of the game played in our half. Wigan were making big yards on their sets of six ,we were not. Perhaps the lads were knackered after Catalans or we were short on forwards but i think they probably did well to contain the result to a 7 point defeat. Maybe the team need to be coached though into playing the game within the same rules that others get away with stretching to put opponents under pressure.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:27 am  

clutch wrote:

Clear momentum for that first try.

I'm not convinced - player wasn't running at any particular pace when he took the ball and made the pass, it was a poor call from ref & touch judge not to see it travelling forwards from the line it was passed on to where it was received.

But hey, you just have to roll with the onfield calls and hope they balance out over the season.

Wigan were the better team, got the rub of a couple of the decisions, and overall deserved to win - we got credit for hanging in there under immense pressure and had a couple of calls gone our way we could have sneaked a win.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:44 am  

Some terrible decisions last night, but we'll hopefully get the same help in future games where opposing fans will feel hard done to. That's the reality of refereeing standards & the 'Try/No Try' rule in SL.

Warrington had there worst performance so far this season and lost to the 2nd placed team in the league by 7 points. Wigan dominated the game and only won by 7.

If we can limit a quality team to such a low score while playing badly it's hardly an end-of-the-world scenario.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:48 am  

wire2004 wrote:

It's OK dita. I'll bite on this one.

1st one. Wigan 2nd try. No control over the grounding.
2nd one. Warrington 1st no try. Explain how Vaughan touched the ball when the ball went back. Either Vaughan tipped the ball back. Or the Wigan player touched the ball forward. Both would be play on and a try. The ball was travelling backwards. In all replays.
3rd one. Words fail me on that last no try. I don't even know what was wrong with it.

There's 3.

1) It's control because the ball never leaves his hand. It's been the rule for over a decade. Do catch up. If that had been a Warrington "no try" you'd have been whining about "corruption".

2) The ball went "back" because Vaughan knocks it on to Marshall. It doesn't go back, it goes forward off Marshall but the initial knock on was by Vaughan.

3) The ball is lost and ends up under his body. Unlike the Wigan one (which ironically you're moaning about) the connection between hand and ball is lost. However, had it gone up as a try, I'm sure it would have been given. Those decisions happen nearly every game. It's a consequence of the on field try/no try which I agree should be abandoned.

One other point (not from your post): All those moaning about how long Wigan were allowed in the tackle clearly aren't familiar with the rules. Listen to the match commentary and you can clearly hear the referee calling "surrender" on practically every Warrington set. That's a consequence of Wigan's dominant defence. Warrington got the same consideration on the few times they were dominant. Don't complain if your team is dominated. Let's leave that to Saints fans hey?

Edit: Apologies. Just seen these points have been covered. Time at the ruck is still relevant though.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:05 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Absolutely. Beat me to it.

We were munched for position by a better pack, and a quality kicking game from Harry Smith.

Looking ahead, despite only a 7 points loss against Wigan with only 1 prop out, and nobody else to come in, they are pretty much where they are, Wigan won’t get much better than that…
Whereas Wire have got another 3/4 gears to come back yet.
Harrison Bullock Dudson Philbin.

Who out of the 2 coaches with feel most comfortable about the coming weeks?

We have Smithies to come back into that pack and lost Singleton after just a few minutes of that game so pretty much played with the same number of props as Warrington did. We also have Harvey Hill to come in and will probably be looking at bringing in a mid season signing given the Cooper injury.

To suggest we "are where we are" (sic) when we have Field out and are running with a backrower in the halves is ludicrous! If you mean in the pack, are you seriously suggesting that Superleague's top tackler who regularly returns over 100 metres would have no impact on our defence or go forward? That's before you consider playing the entire game an interchange down?

Have a word with yourself Duckie.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:11 pm  

A lot of Wiganers loitering around here, isn't there?...

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:37 pm  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

I won't repeat what has been said already, plenty of good comments IMO, but I would say the team looked tired /jaded to me, presumably the shortage in the pack and last weeks game contributed. But one issue for me is the lack of depth in the squad. Wigan hold a significant advantage in this respect, and that is likely to be important at the business end of the season.

Just to emphasise the squad depth problem, Wigan reserves are currently beating Wire by 74-10 at Vicky Park !

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:04 pm  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

Just to emphasise the squad depth problem, Wigan reserves are currently beating Wire by 74-10 at Vicky Park !

The way some of your fans have been going on, I thought Wigan played your reserves last night.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:18 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

You really need to look up the term humility, Duckie...

You were actually predicting we'd be 10 wins out of 10, yet, without a shred of shame, you now claim to have seen last night's loss coming...

No doubt after our next loss, you will have conveniently forgotten about this latest nonsense prediction of not losing another game?

I always put a Wire win on here. I’ve nowt to lose so what’s the point in putting them down for a loss, why do you think I finish near bottom of the prediction league last season and through C19.

I did see it coming and I’ve £25 going on tomorrows game because of the results…. But I’ll still say a Wire win.