Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:41 pm  

Right now... The club needs for the sake of uplifting the supporter base a big win from somewhere...either on with a large victory through evidence of a well thought out game plan or off the field by some evidence of sound recruitment...in terms of the second For Karls clarification... Currie for 3 yrs isn't it

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:40 pm  

'Price' gets mentioned a few times.
That sends shudders down my spine.
With the exception of 3 or 4 games it was a period of 3 years that I would rather forget.

I would honestly prefer to be where we are now than where we were in that period.
History shows Price couldn't turn it round - and to be fair it's clear with hindsight there were bigger issues than many of us realized. But the manner of our play then was awful.
5 drives and a kick to Toby King (ironic given what happened at the weekend).

Yesterday was truly awful, but I am at least in the 'still caring' phase and not in the 'can't be @rsed' phase that I was in for most of 2019-2021.

But still not going to Cas......

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:03 pm  

Totally with you Fez, even with last years debacle there hasn't been a single secind that I've pined for the return of Steve Price. He took us further down the path to despair IMO, maintaining the knock out game victories hoodoo over saints is the only real positive.

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm  

And yet this is more of a Steve price team than he had....

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:10 am  

Yes, Steve price knows exactly what sort of team we have at the minute.

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:21 am  

I'm going to level it up a bit and say that Price wasn't as bad as this. (puts tin hat on) and no i don't pine for him..
Our last spell under Tony Smith was turgid and Price came in giving us structure. We were a hard team to beat and hardly had any blow out scores. Defensively we were miles ahead. A CC win, grand final runners up, to me is ahead of what i expect us to do under Powell. It was clear as daylight that Price couldn't take us to that next level as we often fell at the final hurdle or crashed out of the playoffs early. I feel we are more fragile under Powell. And further away from winning a GF.

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:41 am  

With Price and Powell we have two coaches that couldn't/can't change the direction of a game once the game plan is not working. Smith and Price had the same problem in GF's, they couldn't get over the line. These games are win at all costs as Wigan proved.

The GF winners in the Super League era are all extremely strong from the Board down and driven by a dominant personality, we do not have that now and have not had that previously, we have wealthy people who are like ghosts in the Board room with a rather non-descript CEO ruling the roost. On the pitch change wont come until there is drive from the top down.

Powell now has the chance to get the club a GF win, or at least play like we can get that chance. We need to recruit cleverly now we have space.

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:58 am  

The rugby under Price was awful, truly awful. But you could see that he had a plan not to lose, and you could see that the players were following that plan, frustratingly at times. Our wingers were essentially wide props.

So much so, we had a real attacking threat in Murdoch-Massilla, but he couldn’t trust him to do the basics well enough and we all stood scratching our heads why he’s only getting 15 minutes a game.

Can’t say that of Powell to be fair, he does get the riskier players on, to a fault at times. Kasiano, Philbin, Mikaele and Bullock (I would include Dudson too, but I don’t think he’s even worth 10 mins) are all best used in short bursts as human cannonballs in most people’s opinion. But the result of that is the inefficiency in defence.

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:39 am  

Snaggletooth wrote:

With Price and Powell we have two coaches that couldn't/can't change the direction of a game once the game plan is not working. Smith and Price had the same problem in GF's, they couldn't get over the line. These games are win at all costs as Wigan proved.

It all stems from the top. We have a bloke in charge who is more bothered about Whizzy Rascal's cameo and turning us into a NFL team than disgraceful performances like we seen on Sunday.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Today’s game v Wigan. : Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:47 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

It all stems from the top. We have a bloke in charge who is more bothered about Whizzy Rascal's cameo and turning us into a NFL team than disgraceful performances like we seen on Sunday.

ok lets do this again, when was the last whizzy rascal cameo?