[Uncle Rico]

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 7:26 am  

Who are ya!! wrote:

Wonder if letting him defend on the right might help... Needs people around him who can defend, him and Atkins together is a disaster

Atkins may have his knockers (sorry but I couldn't resist a Cosmo Smallpiece gurn whilst typing that) but his defence isn't that flakey is it? He's'perhaps guilty of jumping out of the line now and again but is usually effective IMO

I can't understand this thread tbh or to clarify the length of it. Is Patton our starting half by design, is he doing significantly better or worse than expectations, do we have another half back in reserve or currently playing out of position in the firsts, is the club resting on its half back laurels and is Patton our long term first choice plan?

I stand on the SW40 most weeks in a section called the 'bloody ell Patton club EVERYTHING is the lads fault well it isn't IMO. He has limitations he makes mistakes, don't we all? His performance should be scrutinised it's professional sport and maybe he's not got enough 'credit in the bank' when he makes a gaff as Cooper did recently. Imagine the outrage if Patton had thrown it straight past Johnson last night into the stand with the line at our mercy?

Moan all you want but I would suggest it needs to be a bit fairer what's good for Patton is good for others, more considered or even constructive.......life was so much simpler when my spot on the terrace was called the 'What you playin' at Brown stand

BTW I'm not Patton's Uncle

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 7:31 am  

As CW8 says, we’ll know by the end of the season. It’s always been that he needs that long run in the team to really show himself - this is that chance. He’s not going to be another Briers but I think we’ll be happy with him as third choice.

I also think there’s another 16 players on the team sheet each week and our fortunes don’t lie solely with Patton.

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 8:41 am  

Patton was excellent.

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 8:44 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Atkins may have his knockers (sorry but I couldn't resist a Cosmo Smallpiece gurn whilst typing that) but his defence isn't that flakey is it? He's'perhaps guilty of jumping out of the line now and again but is usually effective IMO

I can't understand this thread tbh or to clarify the length of it. Is Patton our starting half by design, is he doing significantly better or worse than expectations, do we have another half back in reserve or currently playing out of position in the firsts, is the club resting on its half back laurels and is Patton our long term first choice plan?

I stand on the SW40 most weeks in a section called the 'bloody ell Patton club EVERYTHING is the lads fault well it isn't IMO. He has limitations he makes mistakes, don't we all? His performance should be scrutinised it's professional sport and maybe he's not got enough 'credit in the bank' when he makes a gaff as Cooper did recently. Imagine the outrage if Patton had thrown it straight past Johnson last night into the stand with the line at our mercy?

Moan all you want but I would suggest it needs to be a bit fairer what's good for Patton is good for others, more considered or even constructive.......life was so much simpler when my spot on the terrace was called the 'What you playin' at Brown stand

BTW I'm not Patton's Uncle

Well said UR.
A voice of reason. There's enough slagging of Patton and Atkins over on BaceFook.
We're above that on here.

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 9:18 am  

At the risk of perpetuating the thread, I feel I need to qualify some of my criticisms of Patton.

I don't know what the difference is between honest appraisal of a players performances and "slagging them off". Can someone illuminate me?

Last night I questioned Dec's defence, pass selection and accuracy and work ethic. I stand by all that and it's not the first time he's been guilty.

Ratchford & Atkins all get bad press on here regularly, and sometimes it's justified, but they also make massive, positive contributions elsewhere.

Is Corey Aston a better half than Dec? Not in ny opinion. But last night he was because he kept it simple, played to his strengths and kept focussed.

I'd advise Dec to do the same.

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 9:44 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Patton was excellent.

Don't be silly. If you're going to post stuff like this don't get in a huff when people continue to post overly critical stuff about Patton.

For me at the game and having watched it back after getting home he was alright, nothing more nothing less. If Brown gets fully fit then for me Dec isn't doing anything that will keep Brown on the sidelines for long.

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 am  

Which one of these were Patton's fault? Genuine question. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... gton/50447 In terms of fault, I'd say: 1st was Austin/Cooper/Hill 2nd was Johnson (and Philbin not being in the line) 3rd was Atkins and Ratchford Nothing there for him to be singled out. He wasn't great in attack but no-one was. He also got a try assist.

Which one of these were Patton's fault? Genuine question. https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... gton/50447 In terms of fault, I'd say: 1st was Austin/Cooper/Hill 2nd was Johnson (and Philbin not being in the line) 3rd was Atkins and Ratchford Nothing there for him to be singled out. He wasn't great in attack but no-one was. He also got a try assist.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 10:13 am  

Both the agodo and minikin tries, he couls have worked bit harder on the agodo and he had no idea on the minikin one, he was close enough to tackle and didnt even try, there's a reason teams are targetting him, qnd its not cos of poor tackling, he just ends up in no mans land, which is affecting others around him.

I girst noticed this at the wakey away game(this year) but i havent mentioned it previously as i thought he was doing alright going forward unlike others, now the pros arent outweighing the cons

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 10:43 am  

It's a few days/weeks since I last posted on this thread. I thought I'd let my indifference towards the lad just simmer, and nothing's changed. He's ordinary. Nothing more or less. If he were a car, he'd be an Austin Maestro. He makes mistakes, all halves do. He misses tackles, again, all halves do, bit he NEVER "takes the game by the scruff of the neck" like good/great halves do. He's a ball passer, who sometimes puts a kick in for a try scorer. Unless he gets injured/suspended, he plays every week until Brown is back, and we're stuck with him until his contract runs out. Ho-hum.
What annoys me about the whole situation, is that he's being coached by Lee Briers, who was was described as the most talented British half of his generation (ok, by Eddie Hemmings, but you know what I mean). Either Patton doesn't pay attention, or Briers is hopeless at coaching. One or both needs to get their act together, and do their jobs, properly.

What makes me smile, is the scapegoat accusations on this thread and the weekly matchday threads, and the fact he's Warringtonian. COBBLERS. He's not a scapegoat. He's getting SOME grief, as his performances aren't at the level they need to be, for a side with designs on the big prizes. As for the geographical coordinates of his birth being a reason for criticism, no way. Callands or Canberra, Grappenhall or the Gold Coast, he'll get commented on. We pay the lad's wages. He's up there for praise OR criticism

Re: Dec Patton : Sat May 04, 2019 11:13 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

Don't be silly. If you're going to post stuff like this don't get in a huff when people continue to post overly critical stuff about Patton.

For me at the game and having watched it back after getting home he was alright, nothing more nothing less. If Brown gets fully fit then for me Dec isn't doing anything that will keep Brown on the sidelines for long.

Exactly, reeled in.
The opposite end of the spectrum that seems utterly out of touch adding nothing but balance. I've no argue with balanced criticism.

Now between us all let's be realistic and fare with our comments.

Like I said...we're above bacefook.