Re: Smith Out : Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:33 am  

Straight outta the zoo wrote:

You can't sack the players- but you don't have to play all of them after that.

Brad Dwyers forward pass on the first, after we had just got back into contention was unforgettable. Bad play the balls were killers too- you can't blame those on smith.

But that is exactly the point - Smith keeps playing these players even when they are having stinkers week in week out. It seems you only get dropped if your face doesn't fit or you fall out with Smith.

Re: Smith Out : Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:06 am  

Wirefan wrote:

If Gidley was british he'd be nowhere near the side. Stinks to high heaven this season.

That may be true but another fact is..,we'd be pointless this last 160 minutes of rugby without him!!!

Re: Smith Out : Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:54 am  

jj86 wrote:

But that is exactly the point - Smith keeps playing these players even when they are having stinkers week in week out. It seems you only get dropped if your face doesn't fit or you fall out with Smith.

True certain players will never get dropped, he never drops them based on form it's always a disagreement with him. Never drops his 'yes' men.

Seriously need to get some good old fashioned forwards back in the team

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:41 am  

I've just read the Guardian Website sports page + the interview with Smith beggars belief.Can he not see what the rest of us can see?Don't get me wrong the guy has brought a lot of success to this club but for sheer bilge + excuses he beats any other coach in my time as a supporter.Bet he's already got his Hull excuses written down + I'm now getting to the stage where I can't even watch him being interviewed as I've seen more passion in a female funnel web spider + that usually eats the male after mating.

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:55 am  

runningman29 wrote:

I've just read the Guardian Website sports page + the interview with Smith beggars belief.Can he not see what the rest of us can see?Don't get me wrong the guy has brought a lot of success to this club but for sheer bilge + excuses he beats any other coach in my time as a supporter.Bet he's already got his Hull excuses written down + I'm now getting to the stage where I can't even watch him being interviewed as I've seen more passion in a female funnel web spider + that usually eats the male after mating.

So you're still sat on the fence then?

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:55 am  

Seems like your players have finally become immune to smiths torturous psychological mind games, only took leeds players about 3 seasons, but there was less turnover.

You could probably make a pretty successful psychological thriller/horror chronicling the life of a warrington player under the dictatorship of smith.

Chilling.

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:00 am  

It must be completely demoralising to get dropped when others are performing far worse.

Hughes - penalty machine with the same amount of penalties as Hock, and he's making plenty of errors in attack and defence. His average gain per carry was low last year when we were doing well, so it's worse now.
Westwood - everyone else can see that he's done and possibly should have retired but Smith sticks with him. He's been a fantastic player and a bargain for £60,000, but time and injuries catches up.

Russell - Anyone would be better on the wing than him. Smith probably sticking with him because of the amount of tackle busts and clean breaks last year, but he's not even doing that now.
Rhys Evans - that step never fools anyone, unfortunately never lived up to his potential partly due to injuries.
Ashton Sims - 5.18 metres per carry for a prop is a joke.

You'd think experienced players like Gidley and Brown could organise and lead our attack. But it was Patton getting blamed first, he won't drop Brown or Gidley.

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:35 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Seems like your players have finally become immune to smiths torturous psychological mind games, only took leeds players about 3 seasons, but there was less turnover.

You could probably make a pretty successful psychological thriller/horror chronicling the life of a warrington player under the dictatorship of smith.

Chilling.

That is essentially what I have heard from two different people now. The young lads in particular don't know whether they are coming or going.

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:13 pm  

Ganson's Optician wrote:

That is essentially what I have heard from two different people now. The young lads in particular don't know whether they are coming or going.

Sorry to butt in, but I'm a curious outsider. What is his thing or his methods? I'm curious as to his purported actions towards players. He always seems like a decent bloke, but I know his brother wiped off a lot of smiles at Wakey even if he did knock them into shape.

Re: Smith Out : Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:30 pm  

I think it's a matter of confidence.

You certainly looked massively short of it when I watched your game on Friday.

Smith,overall, has done a good job and has brought success to the HJ and given he's got a squad of good players, it's only a matter of time before you get results.

That said, I can't see this being 'your year' this time around.