: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:31 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Oh I love it when idiots shoot themselves in the foot.

Widnes 29/03/2005 attendance 10,061

London 17/07/2005 attendance 10,146

oops.

10,061 is quite a good crowd really considering it was a Tuesday night and it was on Sky.

Here comes another PY/ISTBI debate ....

Anyway, just pointing it out as it is relative. Though PadWire does border on idiot territory, can't disagree with you there.

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:38 pm  

padgate wire wrote:

There is nothing in that statement that would say to me that Celtic are a better option than Leigh or Widnes other than the fact that the RFL want a team in Wales.
Who will be the next team to lose out for the sake of selling a few sky dishes when they decide to get another team in France or Scotland or the Midlands even . Would you be happy if it was Warrington that lost out ?

Try reading the statement properly then & you will see why Widnes & Leigh were felt not yet ready. For what it's worth, my own belief is that it was between those two teams & Salford for who got the franchise alongside Celtic who with their location provide far better opportunities to expand & strengthen SL/RL than any of the M62 applicants.

I have said I will watch Warrington in SL, in a pan-European SL, in a World SL or in National Leagues/Conferance. Yes I want my club to be at the top table & no I wouldn't be happy if we weren't, but they are my club regardless of their league. We are about 5 years ahead of Widnes/Leigh in our off the field situation for being in own stadium/financially viable/community programmes etc & for those reasons we are into the next generation of SL 3 years ahead of those two.

I have no doubt that the next issue of franchises will see Leigh, Widnes & Halifax providing stronger applications than this time around - maybe Bradford, HKR, Wakey, Cas will be the teams on edge next time round?

Still waiting on your proof of corruption - or are you going to forward that evidence onto the police for investigation?

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:42 pm  

Ah well thanks for all the messages from some of the wire folk but it wasnt to be.

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:44 pm  

padgate wire wrote:

WHAT WAS THE LAST ATTENDANCE AT THE HJ FOR A SL GAME BETWEEN WIDNES COMPARED TO QUINNS? in the same season ?

We will see how long Leigh stay in business now that they have failed ,I would guess it was a massive gamble building that stadium and seeing as the football team were relegated as well it doesn't look good for Leigh,but I hope I am wrong

So you are trying to convince me that Salford would have survived if they had failed in their application ? I doubt it! the new stadium debts would have crippled them .

Bearing in mind neither Salford nor Leigh are picking up the tabs for building their respective stadiums. They may have to chip-in for the fit-out element of the stadiums, which, I would imagine, is comfortably offset against the maintenance costs of The Willows and Hilton Park respectively.

Leigh have survived, comfortably, being outside SL, having visited only once in eleven years.

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:46 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Ah well thanks for all the messages from some of the wire folk but it wasnt to be.

Don't lose sight of the fact it is only three years. Twelve months ago, it was debatable whether Widnes Vikings would exist, full stop.

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:47 pm  

Foz wrote:

Am i right in thinking you are a taxi driver? How about using a minibus and charging to take people to the games? That way you get to see the game and are still working. Although saying that i beleive there may be issues licence wise but even if there is you could always go to the game and work afterwards which i imagine would benefit you money wise as there is always call for taxi's on a Fri and Sat night.

IF I had 25k to invest in one yes but I haven't . there are no issues licence wise as I already have my own operators licence it is just the set up costs tbh or I would have done that by now .
Nice to hear off someone with a sensible view though

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:57 pm  

Just been reading the Widnes board.

Look's like Dalton is about to slit his wrists.............

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:59 pm  

Mistah Lee™ wrote:

Just been reading the Widnes board.

Look's like Dalton is about to slit his wrists.............

Yes I got the impression he was a little bit upset by the decision!

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:01 pm  

Mistah Lee™ wrote:

Just been reading the Widnes board.

Look's like Dalton is about to slit his wrists.............

I feel for them and wanted them to make a return. Nonetheless, the topic that 'kindly requests no posts from Celtic fans' is the best. What a topic name that is!

: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:04 pm  

I think this is a sad day in that Widnes were not admitted.

They have a good stadium and a strong fan base (OK current team is gash). Financially it would be better for us, Saints and Wigan as we all would have big crowd derbies. We do not with Salford or CC.

I do not expect CC to be around in 3 years time.