Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:30 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

This comment, in the WG, is fascinating.


There is a little snippet that isnt common knowledge , Warrington will be paying
£40,000 of Toby Kings £160,000 contract while hes at Wigan the CEO tried to be clever an move King on to Wigan an attempting to keep Wardle , Huddersfield quite rightly blew Warrington out of the water an abruptly moved Wardle onto Wigan ,

Warringtons new centre yet to be announced is Oliver Gildart , if hes stupid enough to accept the offer put to him last Friday by Mr Powell in a Cafe in Lymm , its time our alleged Chief Executive was shown the door after all he was responsible for stabbing Tony Smith in the back , time to get rid ,
Mr Moran , Mr Middleton & Co its time you did your duty on behalf of the
Wire faithful

Did the writer forget to add #KissCamOut ?

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:36 pm  

#kisscamout is not a bad hashtag campaign though is it? I've heard of some shocking contract negotiations which lie squarely with him. Can't we just sit him in a back office somewhere, give him a job title of Social Media Irritant but unbeknown to him never actually upload his dirge.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:43 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Toby King must be the best paid centre in Super League. He’s going to have to completely outshine Wardle at Wigan to earn another contract like the one we gave him. I was a King fan and wanted to keep hold of him at the time, but sheesh, that’s a crazy figure for 4 years.

One thing for sure, he has a great agent. That salary is above the marquee dispensation.

Let's just hope for hyper inflation and a contract that doesn't include a CPI/RPI increase clause.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:10 pm  

Ultimately, it’s a shambles. Whether it’s Fitzpatrick, Powell or any combination of them + board members, it’s almost comical.

Powell goes out saying he has full control of recruitment in April, King gets given a bumper deal in May, just over 12 months later goes out on loan only to be shipped out to one of our fiercest rivals for a year while we contribute to his salary (allegedly). All the while we contribute to the development of another Wigan signing by giving them a dozen or so games rather than letting them play reserves at Huddersfield, and STILL fail to find a replacement 4 months on.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:24 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Ultimately, it’s a shambles. Whether it’s Fitzpatrick, Powell or any combination of them + board members, it’s almost comical.

Powell goes out saying he has full control of recruitment in April, King gets given a bumper deal in May, just over 12 months later goes out on loan only to be shipped out to one of our fiercest rivals for a year while we contribute to his salary (allegedly). All the while we contribute to the development of another Wigan signing by giving them a dozen or so games rather than letting them play reserves at Huddersfield, and STILL fail to find a replacement 4 months on.

It’s pretty much that.

Have tbh someone is making a right freaking balls up embarrassment of our club. We duly deserved any sugar we get threw at us.
We know it’s not SJM and I would say not Powell either.
I can’t rule out the novices, the Chairman and CEO.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:25 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Ultimately, it’s a shambles. Whether it’s Fitzpatrick, Powell or any combination of them + board members, it’s almost comical.

Powell goes out saying he has full control of recruitment in April, King gets given a bumper deal in May, just over 12 months later goes out on loan only to be shipped out to one of our fiercest rivals for a year while we contribute to his salary (allegedly). All the while we contribute to the development of another Wigan signing by giving them a dozen or so games rather than letting them play reserves at Huddersfield, and STILL fail to find a replacement 4 months on.

Never a dull moment at the Wire

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:30 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

It’s pretty much that.

Have tbh someone is making a right freaking balls up embarrassment of our club. We duly deserved any sugar we get threw at us.
We know it’s not SJM and I would say not Powell either.
I can’t rule out the Chairman and CEO.

It's a combination of one or more of these

Chairman | Stuart Middleton

Vice Chairman | Prof Steven Broomhead

Directors | Simon Moran, Norman Summers, Mike Lomax, Lance James, Karl Fitzpatrick

CEO | Karl Fitzpatrick

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:40 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

It's a combination of one or more of these

Chairman | Stuart Middleton

Vice Chairman | Prof Steven Broomhead

Directors | Simon Moran, Norman Summers, Mike Lomax, Lance James, Karl Fitzpatrick

CEO | Karl Fitzpatrick

Responsibility vs Accountability.

If what he himself said (to the press, April 2021) is true, Powell is responsible. Karl Fitzpatrick and the board are accountable though, through the appointment of Powell and the delegation of that responsibility.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:45 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

It’s pretty much that.

Have tbh someone is making a right freaking balls up embarrassment of our club. We duly deserved any sugar we get threw at us.
We know it’s not SJM and I would say not Powell either.
I can’t rule out the novices, the Chairman and CEO.

All this rotting that seems to have happened has coincided with the arrival of the new Chairman and CEO. I'm not accusing or blaming them, but it is certainly coincident.

Maybe we have a bad organisational culture right the way through, and if we do I suppose it's due in part to the club being a bit of a rich man's folly. We seem to just be happy to throw money at things, do things badly or unprofessionally, and not worry about the consequences.

Going back to the comment about King's salary and the story of signing Gildart in a Lymm cafe: Surely it can't be as simple as 'Powell wants xxx player, CEO / Owners throw whatever money player demands'?. Powell seems too shrewd to not realise most of our cultural problems have stemmed from an unbalanced salary structure, and overpaid but underperforming stars? But then, we are apparently paying vast sums to Bullock, who is just an average prop. Add this to the Inglis debacle, the massive salaries for Austin, Widdop and Roberts, and it's no wonder we are a laughing stock.

I just hope Dufty isn't on megabucks, because he may well be the scapegoat next season if we fail to gel.

Re: Toby King CONFIRMED TO HUDDERSFIELD ON LOAN, WARDLE IN R : Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:58 pm  

Right or wrong you expect Dufty, McGuire and Vaughan to be on relative megabucks. What you don't expect is to have King and Bullock on silly money - that is just very poor contract negotiation.