Re: New Prop : Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:21 pm  

Sumner was way back when I first started watching, but I seem to remember injuries being the problem rather than ability?

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New Prop : Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:31 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

When you've seen teams with Sumner, Mark Jones, Gary tees, and hilton as your props, I don't know how you can possibly complain about the current incumbents.

Does the comparison hold Moe?

I don't have the answers and don't know whether we have cap space and will give them the BOD based on Powell's "gauntlet" podcast but the "current incumbents" are part of a squad that's been well funded and has been for years. Surely the question is, is it balanced, is our pot divvied up correctly?

The comparative would then read Morley, Carvell, Wood and Hill.

Re: New Prop : Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Sumner was way back when I first started watching, but I seem to remember injuries being the problem rather than ability?

That's as I remember it as well. At that time we had to play young forwards too often and suffered the consequences.

Re: New Prop : Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:27 am  

Been thinking about this and, in particular, the repeated references to a Satae type prop being required. That may well be true, but I'm not sure it's the style of prop that Powell goes for. Sizewise maybe yes, but Millington, Massey, even Liam Watts are not that barnstorming style. Junior Moors perhaps the exception to prove the rule. I think he'll be after Luke Thompson.

Re: New Prop : Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:12 pm  

It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.

A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.

Re: New Prop : Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:59 pm  

Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.

Carry on.

Re: New Prop : Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:15 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Sorry I thought this thread was about Hughes.

Carry on.

The thread is entitled new prop, not Hughes. Not a fan of Hughes at all but not going to dig him out when problem is far deeper and dies not Lay at Hughes door.

On the subject point, fair to say we are all desperate for a new prop it’s genuinely Incredible that every warrington fan was crying out for it but those professionals tasked with the responsibility didn’t.

Worrying !!

Re: New Prop : Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:21 am  

CW8 wrote:

It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.

A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.

Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?

Re: New Prop : Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:11 am  

Currie, Holmes, Hughes, Davis, Magoulias, J Clark, Philbin, Harrison, Butler

Imagine we replaced just replaced some of those with high-quality big men. With salary cap considerations, you could probably get rid of four of them to bring in two well-paid high-quality props when you consider we have some young talented back-rowers.

It has been a complete failure of squad management and recruitment. There's no hindsight either. Us simple-minded fans have been banging on about this for years now.

Re: New Prop : Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:26 am  

Big Dave 3 wrote:

CW8 wrote:

It's not about stature it's about the ability to make yardage but also bust a tackle, get quick PTB and put in the occasional offload. Those things draw in more defenders and create a bit more space.

A small pack is fine so long as they tick the performance indicators. Ours doesn't.

Sounds like Chris Hill? Why did we let him go or did he want to leave?

Exactly, draw in defenders & get the ball out ,but we also need to instil an attitude throughout the team of the importance of supporting any break whether forward or back.