Re: Roberts : Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:57 pm  

People cannot see the woods for the trees with Mellor.

This lad is playing way above his weight week in week out keeping Widnes on the front foot...not only that he tackles pretty darn good too.
Like Brown did, Mellor plays with a shallow squad and with a beaten pack. Get him here with out squad and like Brown he'll shine.

He reminds me very much like Nathan Wood but with greater presence.
I'd look nowhere else.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:05 am  

the flying biscuit wrote:

Mellor has to be an absolute no...he's plain average in general. I do like the fact he isn't scared to take the Line on though.

He could have made a decent partner to Roberts who would have minced around passing and kicking while leaving Mellor to split defences with his running game.

But as we are now replacing Roberts it makes perfect sense to purchase two quality half backs not one and then opt for a Lui Mellor or Matty Smith option for the other.

It'll be hard enough to get 1 above average half back at the moment, never mind two, and then have to let them bed in.

Mellor wouldn't be a bad call though, we struggle with him nearly every game, and thats off his own back, without decent forwards or ratchford or charnley as a foil.

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:48 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote: It'll be hard enough to get 1 above average half back at the moment, never mind two, and then have to let them bed in. Just more arguing for limitations. True quality can hit the ground running - proof Andrew Johns. Watch debut here if you need reminding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsuCIfcO_o

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote: It'll be hard enough to get 1 above average half back at the moment, never mind two, and then have to let them bed in. Just more arguing for limitations. True quality can hit the ground running - proof Andrew Johns. Watch debut here if you need reminding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsuCIfcO_o

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:40 am  

Wires71 wrote: Just more arguing for limitations. True quality can hit the ground running - proof Andrew Johns. Watch debut here if you need reminding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsuCIfcO_o AJ had an effect but it was more a metal than his attribution..imo it was Brent Gross who was the real difference. ....anyways what happened against Hull then W71?

Wires71 wrote: Just more arguing for limitations. True quality can hit the ground running - proof Andrew Johns. Watch debut here if you need reminding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsuCIfcO_o AJ had an effect but it was more a metal than his attribution..imo it was Brent Gross who was the real difference. ....anyways what happened against Hull then W71?

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:13 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

AJ had an effect but it was more a metal than his attribution..imo it was Brent Gross who was the real difference.
....anyways what happened against Hull then W71?

That was a bad night, I'll give you that. I was a VP back then and I remember just hitting the bar at HT. But I don't think it was attributed to Johns. Hull came out of the shed firing on all cylinders.

All I am putting forward is the idea we should be ambitious with who we target and be prepared to use our wealth and marquee spot. Surely we could tempt someone good for £0.5M per year + bonus. If not, then we look to the likes of Mellor.

We have grown up watching Wire HB's like Kelly, Gregory, Woods, Shelford, Langer, Johns, Briers, Myler, Gidley, Sandow. All quality players.

I think this is what makes me disappointed with 2nd/3rd tier players like Durbin, Hulse, Dwyer, O'Brien, Patton, Mellor et al.

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm  

Mellor
Pace - tick
Takes on the line - tick
defensively sound - tick
Scores tries - tick
Passes both ways - short and long -tick
decent injury record - tick
Leads back line - tick
decent kicking game - tick

I've said for 3 years we should sign him

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:50 pm  

matthew wrote:

Mellor
Pace - tick
Takes on the line - tick
defensively sound - tick
Scores tries - tick
Passes both ways - short and long -tick
decent injury record - tick
Leads back line - tick
decent kicking game - tick

I've said for 3 years we should sign him

And a Warringtonian

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:26 pm  

Mellor or Patton I know who I would choose.

Of more importance though is if as some have suggested that Brown is going to call it a day at seasons end we need a replacement for him.
Is it Eastmond ? This as gone very quiet recently.

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:13 pm  

I'm certainly interested in giving Mellor a chance in a team where he's surrounded by better players. I can understand everyone's concern with the fact he's been playing at a lower level team and hasn't really proved himself yet... that's why I'm struggling to understand why most (or a significant number) of people are calling for Eastmond to replace Roberts or Brown. He's a Rugby union centre who hasn't played our sport for 7 years, where he was previously a talented runner but below average defender and organiser. We need two RL half-backs, and there aren't many. Mellor is one of the better ones and since he's from this town he'll be easy to find if he runs off homesick.

Trueman seems to be getting all the raps too... having a good game tonight by all accounts.

Re: Roberts : Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:41 pm  

I would like both Mellor and Eastmond.
It sounds quite a decent pair to me.