Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:06 pm  

I’m not saying he is the Messiah, just that lambasting the club for not signing a prop, when in fact we did, is a bit harsh.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:44 pm  

I guess the point is, knowing that Harrison would be missing, have the coaching staff made best use of the players available - and have those players performed as expected - especially in the backdrop of letting Doro and Robson out on loan ?

Therefore it's reasonable to question why players like Philbin, Currie and King maybe haven't stepped up to the level they were once at, knowing that the team might be lighter in some areas, or are they just doing the job asked of them by the coaching team.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:40 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

I’m not saying he is the Messiah, just that lambasting the club for not signing a prop, when in fact we did, is a bit harsh.

To counter that, even without the injury, the club shouldn't have been relying on a young Championship forward as the answer to our problems.

And even if he was fit and firing, we still wouldn't have enough quality props.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:18 pm  

We have signed 4 props recently, Butler, mulhern, bullock and Harrison. Unfair to comment on Harrison who hasn't even pulled a training shirt on yet. Bullock and mulhern are alright, Butler hasn't had a run and I don't know why. I'd say all of them are project signings though really. In all honestly seeing other teams front rows and comparing it's hard to see where the problem is, ours isn't the best by any means but it's not the worst either.

I think we need a lot of work in the ruck both in attack and defence because we don't seem to win either and the line speed has to improve. Its hard for any team to play on the front foot if we don't get fast PTB and I think that's where we are really struggling. There is no space created in the opposition defensive lines because we are too slow in the ruck. Some big units help obviously but there is no reason why the players we have can't pick up the tempo a bit.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:25 pm  

I've said this repeatedly, but I'll say ut again, we are not alone in our prop troubles.

Leeds fans are lamenting their props/middles/bumped up 2nd rowers, and Wigan are, after a good start they're moaning about their firepower up front.

I highly recommend going having a nosey, the grass isn't greener everywhere

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:51 pm  

Jack Napier wrote:

To counter that, even without the injury, the club shouldn't have been relying on a young Championship forward as the answer to our problems.

And even if he was fit and firing, we still wouldn't have enough quality props.

Throw in the beef of Margoulis and we wouldn’t look quite so lightweight. Again, I’m not suggesting all in the garden is rosy just countering the argument that the club had done nothing.
Yours
KF

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:02 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

I highly recommend going having a nosey, the grass isn't greener everywhere

This is very true. We do tend to scrutinise our mistakes and our weaknesses.
As regards forwards we have lost Sitaleki Akauola, Hill and Doro and gained Bullock, Harrison, Holmes and Magoulias.
Of the new recruits only one out of the four played v. Trinity.

Leeds are worth looking at. They have some umph in the forwards but the form of Sezer (who was outstanding at Hudds) & Austin must be a real worry for them.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:47 pm  

Sezer was outstanding at Huddersfield for just a bit longer than Austin was outstanding with us.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:24 pm  

Just watched the game back & we were well in it till 70 minutes when the score mounted in Wakey's favour. I thought it was a good game of rugby & would have kept the neutrals interested throughout.

Re: New Prop : Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:42 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Just watched the game back & we were well in it till 70 minutes when the score mounted in Wakey's favour. I thought it was a good game of rugby & would have kept the neutrals interested throughout.

Exactly how i saw it, we weren't blown off the park and weren't as bad as the reactions warranted. We have Daz Clark, Mulhern, Charnley and potentially Magoulias for the challenge cup game so will level things up even more. We need a good response this week though.