Re: Smith Out : Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:52 pm  

Coaches under pressure don't have a good record at Hudds according to their board.2 were sacked last season after losing there.Sunday might see a new one added to that list.

Re: Smith Out : Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:04 pm  

Never Waver!

Re: Smith Out : Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:45 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

You also had a major rebuild.

More out of default .
We lost some big game players in JP, Sinfield ,Kylie, Aiton and more recently Hardaker who have not yet been replaced to their high standards maybe with the exception of Aiton/Parcell.
You have kept the squad relatively in tact bringing in Cooper and swapping Brown for Sandow.
Maybe the team has got stale and needs a shake up or Smith`s tactics no longer inspire the squad.
I don`t think you become a bad team overnight especially as your team has not changed that much.

Re: Smith Out : Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:24 pm  

chapylad wrote:

More out of default .
We lost some big game players in JP, Sinfield ,Kylie, Aiton and more recently Hardaker who have not yet been replaced to their high standards maybe with the exception of Aiton/Parcell.
You have kept the squad relatively in tact bringing in Cooper and swapping Brown for Sandow.
Maybe the team has got stale and needs a shake up or Smith`s tactics no longer inspire the squad.
I don`t think you become a bad team overnight especially as your team has not changed that much.

But it was not really that good to start with ... last year was a huge flop for us last year was a terrible season through out not just ourselves but it was jus poor all around and we still could not manage to beat Wigan in the gf and lost the cc final after being ahead some will see getting to a final as being a good year ask yourselves would Wigan saints Leeds and even Bradford in their peak be happy losing in a final ???? Why should we because we've not won it for years ???? Does that make the coach immune from criticism or in a job for life ?

Re: Smith Out : Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:48 pm  

I don't disagree with you Dezzzie I'm just pointing out that we were going through the same as you are doing now.
And I can understand the fans frustration. Smith like McDermott last year deserves the flak he is getting. It goes with the job. Not sure he will walk unless he is pushed again just like McDermott last year.

Re: Smith Out : Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:38 am  

chapylad wrote:

Reading your board in 2017 is almost the same as reading our board in 2016.
Some fans wanting their own team to lose, some fans wanting the coach to walk etc etc
I`m sure you will be safe from the drop but admit it is a major worry when you are in that position.

I think a major difference is that it was sort of expected that you would struggle with so much influence being lost with the players who left. We (or certainly me) actually believed we were stronger going in to this season than last season. Mcdermott had it really tough losing so many experienced heads that were still key players, Smith doesn't have that excuse.

I know sandow left and he played a major part at the start of the season but by the end of it we had played a lot of game time without him and still won the hubcap and made both finals. Brown has been woeful but Wayne Bennett is no mug and he has selected brown for elite squad. It's a coaching issue at wire, not playing personnel.

Re: Smith Out : Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:36 am  

Interesting article from Hill. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... pper_says/ They have had another closed doors heart to heart and we will see the output on Sunday. If he really thinks that only 5% want Smith and Agar out he is mistaken.

Interesting article from Hill. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... pper_says/ They have had another closed doors heart to heart and we will see the output on Sunday. If he really thinks that only 5% want Smith and Agar out he is mistaken.

Re: Smith Out : Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:59 am  

runningman29 wrote:

Coaches under pressure don't have a good record at Hudds according to their board.2 were sacked last season after losing there.Sunday might see a new one added to that list.

No, two coaches have been sacked THIS season, Cunningham and frayssinous.
I'm hoping it's a hatrick this weekend!

Smith has served you well- but perhaps it's just that it's stale-been there too long. Smith and briers should both go IMO. Briers should experience rugby outside of Warrington for his own sake.
It's been said before that smith has one style of man management that doesn't suit everyone. Big Eorl- the most laid back guy in RL- almost quit the game to join the police force because of him.

Re: Smith Out : Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:15 am  

[quote="Wires71"]Interesting article from Hill. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... pper_says/ They have had another closed doors heart to heart and we will see the output on Sunday. If he really thinks that only 5% want Smith and Agar out he is mistaken.[/quote] It was the "be behind us regardless" that stood out to me. Almost like it doesn't matter how we perform.

[quote="Wires71"]Interesting article from Hill. http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... pper_says/ They have had another closed doors heart to heart and we will see the output on Sunday. If he really thinks that only 5% want Smith and Agar out he is mistaken.[/quote] It was the "be behind us regardless" that stood out to me. Almost like it doesn't matter how we perform.

Re: Smith Out : Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:51 am  

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