: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:32 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Two things that did annoy me was his attempt at converting that scoring chance from the cross-field kick; why the hell did he dive at it feet first? Tends to suggest a lack of bravery.

And the tackle attempt at Gardner when he should him smashed him into touch was also rather pitiful.

I think he dove at it feet first in at attempt to trap it. It would have been an almost impossible catch, as he would have had to take it whilst diving. It almost came off.

As for the tackle on Gardner, I think Credit goes to Gardner tbh, as he got so low, it became very difficult to get a big hit in. Gardner should have scored, and he did. It would have been a wonder play to keep him out there.

I've just watched the tries again, and Penny was at fault for 1 of them for me, the 2nd try. He came in as Flannery (I think) was offloading, and then realised he should have stayed out. This is the one where Gardner went low and scored.

As for the one where he got dragged off, he pulled off a very good tackle on Gardner, there was just no other Wire players alert enough to take Gidley.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:05 pm  

He's not a rugby league player.

He doesn't have finesse, he doesn't have the skill or rugby league ability.

He has an abundance of pace, that doesn't make him a rugby league player, far from it.

He might improve with correct coaching, but in my opinion, he needs a lot of direct coaching from a decent former/existing player, to bring his game on.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:16 pm  

i agree give the lad a chance BUT i would make the following points

he has the pace to skin the best he did it last year so create an opening for him

i worry he does not seem to like the physical side of the game most players in rugby would come in hard on a winger going over for a try he does not seem to have that in him is he a naturally aggressive lad?

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:19 pm  

Penny has the potential, but hasn't developed yet.

I'm not 100% sure whether he'll need to learn those skills on or off the Super League field.....

Comparing him with Riley;

Penny - Has the potential, but isn't ready yet
Riley - Has less potential, but is ready now

I believe Penny is the future, Riley is the now

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:31 pm  

I just don't think Penny and King work well together, you can't blame just one player for our weakness on that side.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:38 pm  

A.C.WIRE wrote:

We dont play to Penny strengths anymore,we dont get him
in the positions we don't kick over the top to drive the
opposition back and give him a chance to chase,since
Matt King arrived he seems to have struggled big time.

If he continues to be slagged off and taken off his
confidence will just dive again i think if he was
playing outside Gleeson or in the Saints or Leeds
team you would see him score lots of tries and his
defence would hardly get a mention.

Would rather see Matt King disappear than one
of our own trained but thats another thread.

Are you a poet ?

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:53 pm  

Dave T wrote:

I think he dove at it feet first in at attempt to trap it. It would have been an almost impossible catch, as he would have had to take it whilst diving. It almost came off.

As for the tackle on Gardner, I think Credit goes to Gardner tbh, as he got so low, it became very difficult to get a big hit in. Gardner should have scored, and he did. It would have been a wonder play to keep him out there.

I've just watched the tries again, and Penny was at fault for 1 of them for me, the 2nd try. He came in as Flannery (I think) was offloading, and then realised he should have stayed out. This is the one where Gardner went low and scored.

As for the one where he got dragged off, he pulled off a very good tackle on Gardner, there was just no other Wire players alert enough to take Gidley.

How many rugby league players would have attempted to 'trap it'. It wasn't the action of a rugby league player whose instinct would always be to get their hands to it.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:54 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

Are you a poet ?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:02 pm  

RAI of Sunshine wrote:

Penny has the potential, but hasn't developed yet.

I'm not 100% sure whether he'll need to learn those skills on or off the Super League field.....

Comparing him with Riley;

Penny - Has the potential, but isn't ready yet
Riley - Has less potential, but is ready now

I believe Penny is the future, Riley is the now

well god knows how long riley's been playing the game, but conside the fact this is his 5th season involved in the first team. In the grand scheme of things i get the impression that penny's probably where riley was back in 05.

Re: Kevin Penny. : Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:05 pm  

Latchford Wolvesfan wrote:

Here is another player that needs the sack, absolute liability, poor positional play, poor defense and is fast declining in attack, teams week in week out are going to get success from attacking Penny's wing and should be dropped as soon as Gleeson is fit.

Giants had a player just like that. Paul White!