: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:25 pm  

JWP wrote:

I think Monas tackling technique is fine, if you have good line speed and on the back of that get numbers in the tackle. If Monas is first man in, halts the tackler and quickly you have two men in clamping the ball and turtling him on the floor, then Monas becomes an asset. When you have him making the tackle solo, he halts the tackler but he's able to stand and offload and we get caught on the back of it. I think this is one of the reasons why the NRL suits Monas and his approach.

Against Catalans last week Monas made a mistake with ball in hand early on. He then made a few big tackles and forced a mistake from them.

I made the point to my mate, that fair play his defence had been excellent and he had really stepped it up (in defence). After I made that point, he went on to miss a couple of bad ones in the second half which cost us. I'm going to keep quiet in future.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:42 pm  

Mighty Wires wrote:

That was to easy.

I see what you did there! One for the keepnet!

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:13 pm  

"I think Monas tackling technique is fine, if you have good line speed and on the back of that get numbers in the tackle. If Monas is first man in, halts the tackler and quickly you have two men in clamping the ball and turtling him on the floor, then Monas becomes an asset. When you have him making the tackle solo, he halts the tackler but he's able to stand and offload and we get caught on the back of it. I think this is one of the reasons why the NRL suits Monas and his approach."

I know what your saying but nowadays modern tackling techniques dictate that the first man in takes the ball, second man holds up and 3rd man hits his soft undercarriage and slides down to take the legs. All NRL, Leeds and Saints especially employ this type of tackling style, you could see Cullen adapoting it at Wire the season before he left especially when he got the big guys Morley and Rah in the team.The Wire under 18's and 21's are taught this style now by Bastiaon so when you see Monaghan with his style it leaves the attacker open to offloads. Its ok if your a fullback and its a one on one then sometimes that would be the correct choice but when we are defending inbetween the middle 30's then it is absolutly the wrong style. More than Monas suiting the NRL, I think this is a major reason why he left the NRL( as well as he can't pass R to L of course).
Hope this helps.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:58 pm  

SEB wrote:

:lol: I see what you did there! One for the keepnet!

I'm a mile off the likes of Sally and Co.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:53 pm  

Fletcher ender wrote:

"I think Monas tackling technique is fine, if you have good line speed and on the back of that get numbers in the tackle. If Monas is first man in, halts the tackler and quickly you have two men in clamping the ball and turtling him on the floor, then Monas becomes an asset. When you have him making the tackle solo, he halts the tackler but he's able to stand and offload and we get caught on the back of it. I think this is one of the reasons why the NRL suits Monas and his approach."

I know what your saying but nowadays modern tackling techniques dictate that the first man in takes the ball, second man holds up and 3rd man hits his soft undercarriage and slides down to take the legs. All NRL, Leeds and Saints especially employ this type of tackling style, you could see Cullen adapoting it at Wire the season before he left especially when he got the big guys Morley and Rah in the team.The Wire under 18's and 21's are taught this style now by Bastiaon so when you see Monaghan with his style it leaves the attacker open to offloads. Its ok if your a fullback and its a one on one then sometimes that would be the correct choice but when we are defending inbetween the middle 30's then it is absolutly the wrong style. More than Monas suiting the NRL, I think this is a major reason why he left the NRL( as well as he can't pass R to L of course).
Hope this helps.

It is a perfectly sound technique as well. First man also attacks the ball and attempts to twist the player thus exposing his side to the other tacklers. It then slows the play-the-ball as first one, then the second then the third tackler unloads off the grounded player. It does however mean that the third man in has to work harder to get back into the defensive line.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:04 pm  

i think what Fletcher ender is trying to say,and i agree with him , is that Monas goes low everytime even in his own red zone and allows the attacking player to offload the ball. Its probably not his technique which is poor but his tackle choice.
I also watched today for this comment that he cannot pass from R to L and having watched the game on tv tonight i agree agian with Fletcher ender that when he is under pressure he is very poor at passing this way. Even Stevo noticed it tonight.