FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Smith Out
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman4712No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 26 200223 years333rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th May 21 21:569th May 21 11:01LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 am  
Doubt Smith would go with a young family in school in Huddersfield. Can't see it but stranger things have happened.

I just think it's all gone very stale now. Very tough to turn things around at this stage.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach856No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 24 200915 years155th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Sep 24 13:3615th Sep 24 12:50LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:15 am  
On a positive note the odds on becoming the Warrington guardian "face in the crowd" winner are shortening week on week.
The prize is a glossy picture of your favourite player.
If I have the motivation over the coming weeks it could be just between me and that postie that has not missed a game for 40 years.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain62
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 02 20177 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Jul 17 20:292nd Jul 17 20:27LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:13 pm  
Now is the time for us to all pull together and get behind Tony, Agar and the lads. When the going gets tough, the tough get going as the song goes, we've got a good squad on paper, we just seem to have had some tired players out there which means our next league game seems to be a 4 pointer now, a Must win game! Now then Wire! Let's be having you!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2079No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 10 201113 years293rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Jun 23 21:1019th Jun 23 14:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Its ALWAYS our year

Est.1876

Sent to me from heaven... You are my world.

1876 - 2022

BUM BANGERS SINCE 2012

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:27 pm  
CharlieWong wrote:
Now is the time for us to all pull together and get behind Tony, Agar and the lads. When the going gets tough, the tough get going as the song goes, we've got a good squad on paper, we just seem to have had some tired players out there which means our next league game seems to be a 4 pointer now, a Must win game! Now then Wire! Let's be having you!


This here is part of the reason our club will never dominate.
atomic 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6904
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 201510 years284th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Sep 24 21:109th Sep 24 21:10LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Image

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:43 pm  
You need to weed out the players whose heads are dropping.You have players who can't man up when the going gets tough.They end up in a shell with tunnel vision and costs the others in the squad to cover their jobs also.

Thats not the coaches whats doing that! Thats senior players who are not stepping up when they should do.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2773
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 06 200519 years12th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Sep 24 06:3021st Sep 24 11:33LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington
Signature
Ettinghausen's gone ice skatin'

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:51 pm  
Aaaargh - but ANY player not playing to their potential for whatever reason IS the responsibility of the coach.
atomic 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6904
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 201510 years284th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Sep 24 21:109th Sep 24 21:10LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Image

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:56 pm  
Their heads wont drop on a training pitch.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1923No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 07 200519 years198th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Sep 24 04:1917th Aug 24 05:41LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:09 pm  
CharlieWong wrote:
Now is the time for us to all pull together and get behind Tony, Agar and the lads. When the going gets tough, the tough get going as the song goes, we've got a good squad on paper, we just seem to have had some tired players out there which means our next league game seems to be a 4 pointer now, a Must win game! Now then Wire! Let's be having you!
1 word.Codswallop.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1884No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 200618 years300th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
30th Dec 23 10:002nd May 23 14:54LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Warrington

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:16 pm  
I know the players are in the entertainment business by choice but could you imagine how it would feel if the public we're continually commenting on how well you did your job? Ok, this may inspire certain individuals but personally such criticism would not inspire me to try any harder, in fact I would most likely rebel against it. Unfortunately as the team and management that have been fairly successful over recent years, they also may not be the best at dealing with criticism and failure.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2079No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 10 201113 years293rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Jun 23 21:1019th Jun 23 14:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Its ALWAYS our year

Est.1876

Sent to me from heaven... You are my world.

1876 - 2022

BUM BANGERS SINCE 2012

Re: Smith Out : Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:41 pm  
silver2 wrote:
in fact I would most likely rebel against it. Unfortunately as the team and management that have been fairly successful over recent years, they also may not be the best at dealing with criticism and failure.


The Team are rebelling. They're rebelling against the coaching staff.

Some players are rebelling because they're upset with squad selections, others are rebelling because they don't agree with the playing style. Some players are rebelling because other players aren't buying into the systems so are rebelling against each other.

you can harp on all you want about how ultimately its down to the player as they're the ones on the pitch. WRONG.

This is 100% down to the coaching staff and the blame lays squarely at Tony's feet. He's the gaffer, he's the man whos job it is to put a system in place that everyone agrees with. He's the man who picks the team. He's the man who has to figure out the individual problems and deal with them. He isn't doing that and that's why we're seeing this sudden drop in form. The players are not happy and its his job to sort it out.

A team doesn't just suddenly loose all its talent. The players are unhappy and it's starting to show, it's been coming for a few years but certain players have been papering over the cracks, that however can only happen for so long.

It's been coming for a long time this. People have been calling it for years and were laughed at and dismissed. The clubs top brass also has a lot to answer for.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Abe Froman, ratticusfinch, Uncle Rico, wirecation and 724 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Warrington Wolves


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Uncle Rico
1
6m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
WIZEB
3146
7m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2241
29m
Film game
Boss Hog
3796
39m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Results and Standings
Uncle Rico
39
40m
Season 2024
Neruda
19
48m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Dave K.
107
48m
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
31
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62463
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
25s
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
31
28s
Recruitment rumours and links
easyWire
3080
29s
Wolves again
BigTime
26
29s
2025
BigTime
4
36s
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
39s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
WIZEB
3146
51s
Halifax A
Bull Mania
12
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Zoo Zoo Boom
2338
1m
Who do we want in the play-offs
Barstool Pre
64
1m
Betting 2024
karetaker
178
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Swinton v Dons - Sunday 22 September 2024
Wanderer
2
TODAY
AJoshua
karetaker
1
TODAY
David Hughes
orangeman
1
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Finish Seventh Hull Avoid the Wooden Spoon
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025
BigTime
4
TODAY
Season 2024
Neruda
19
TODAY
Hull KR Secure Second With Victory Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights match v London
just_browny
42
TODAY
Wembley photo
AgbriggAmble
3
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
westgaterunn
19
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
BigTime
26
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Jack Gaskell
6
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
Seth
67
TODAY
Squad for London
MorePlaymake
38
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Hessle Roade
2
TODAY
Halifax A
Bull Mania
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
221
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
274
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
396
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
934
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
719
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
807
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
843
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1166
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1082
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1186
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1340
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1216
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1563
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1609
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1823
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 21st Sep
SL 27 Hull FC4-24Catalans
CH 27 Featherstone50-12Dewsbury
CH 27 Widnes12-18Toulouse
CH27 Wakefield46-0Barrow
NRL 29 Sydney40-16Manly
Fri 20th Sep
SL 27 Hull KR26-16Leeds
SL 27 Leigh18-12St.Helens
SL 27 Warrington54-0LondonB
CH 27 Sheffield24-26York
NRL 29 Cronulla26-18NQL Cowboys
Thu 19th Sep
SL 27 Huddersfield34-10Castleford
SL 27 Wigan64-0Salford
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH26 Wakefield20-4York
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Warrington 27 738 319 419 40
Salford 27 550 547 3 32
Leigh 27 566 398 168 31
St.Helens 27 596 388 208 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 25 938 256 682 48
Toulouse 24 680 352 328 33
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
York 26 639 463 176 28
Featherstone 25 616 484 132 28
Sheffield 25 618 498 120 28
 
Widnes 25 525 451 74 27
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 24 418 694 -276 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 26 320 871 -551 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Uncle Rico
1
6m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
WIZEB
3146
7m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2241
29m
Film game
Boss Hog
3796
39m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Results and Standings
Uncle Rico
39
40m
Season 2024
Neruda
19
48m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Dave K.
107
48m
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
31
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62463
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40102
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
25s
bulls on Sunday
Tony Fax
31
28s
Recruitment rumours and links
easyWire
3080
29s
Wolves again
BigTime
26
29s
2025
BigTime
4
36s
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
39s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
WIZEB
3146
51s
Halifax A
Bull Mania
12
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Zoo Zoo Boom
2338
1m
Who do we want in the play-offs
Barstool Pre
64
1m
Betting 2024
karetaker
178
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Swinton v Dons - Sunday 22 September 2024
Wanderer
2
TODAY
AJoshua
karetaker
1
TODAY
David Hughes
orangeman
1
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Finish Seventh Hull Avoid the Wooden Spoon
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025
BigTime
4
TODAY
Season 2024
Neruda
19
TODAY
Hull KR Secure Second With Victory Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights match v London
just_browny
42
TODAY
Wembley photo
AgbriggAmble
3
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
westgaterunn
19
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
BigTime
26
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Jack Gaskell
6
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
Seth
67
TODAY
Squad for London
MorePlaymake
38
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Hessle Roade
2
TODAY
Halifax A
Bull Mania
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
221
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
274
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
396
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
934
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
719
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
807
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
843
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1166
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1082
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1186
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1340
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1216
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1563
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1609
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1823


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!