Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:36 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Minikin has to wait for his chance surely? I just don't see who he displaces from our matchday 17. I wouldn't back against him taking a shirt when he gets a chance because ehe is a good player but right now we haven't missed him have we?

It's hard to say that we've missed him, as he hasn't turned out for us yet. Wrench looks like he could miss out with Williams returning, and he should be in front of Minikin for a centre spot should King or Mata'utia be injured/rested. I'd imagine that it would be either Ashton or Charnley to make way for him to get a start in the team. The proviso there would be if DP plays at FB when he returns (which I would very much disagree with) then Thewlis should get the wing spot. Harrison & Minikin being available would add competition for places, which ought to be a very good thing and make it easier for DP to drop anyone not buying into his way/style of playing.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:42 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

We have missed him. A few weeks back we had a relatively unhappy Wrench out there.
We are a long way off having to think whether he will get in the 17 or not.

A few weeks back we had a group of individuals not wishing to put a shift in. Wrench was probably one of a group of players who wanted to do his best for the cause and was rather vexed off with the more senior players who were not earning their shirt. He's in front of Minikin in my pecking order, and it's up to Minikin to bide his time and take the opportunity when it arises, as Wrench has already done in my view.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:49 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

A few weeks back we had a group of individuals not wishing to put a shift in. Wrench was probably one of a group of players who wanted to do his best for the cause and was rather vexed off with the more senior players who were not earning their shirt. He's in front of Minikin in my pecking order, and it's up to Minikin to bide his time and take the opportunity when it arises, as Wrench has already done in my view.

Minikin is a better winger than centre.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:56 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

A few weeks back we had a group of individuals not wishing to put a shift in. Wrench was probably one of a group of players who wanted to do his best for the cause and was rather vexed off with the more senior players who were not earning their shirt. He's in front of Minikin in my pecking order, and it's up to Minikin to bide his time and take the opportunity when it arises, as Wrench has already done in my view.

Of course Minikin is not going to get in the team without earning it. But he like Ashton & Charnley is an experienced winger and it will be good to have him about. I don't think we need to start thinking about dropping anyone. What so often happens is that someone gets injured and we don't even need to think about what if all the players were available
For what it's worth most agree that Wrench looks a centre and Thewlis is a very handy full back.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

Of course Minikin is not going to get in the team without earning it. But he like Ashton & Charnley is an experienced winger and it will be good to have him about. I don't think we need to start thinking about dropping anyone. What so often happens is that someone gets injured and we don't even need to think about what if all the players were available
For what it's worth most agree that Wrench looks a centre and Thewlis is a very handy full back.

We seem to agree on most points, other than how have we missed Minikin?

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:22 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

We seem to agree on most points, other than how have we missed Minikin?

Wrench has proven uncomfortable on the wing, I think Wakey home and Hul KR away. We could have done with Minikin who would have done a better job there.

I’d agree that I wouldn’t want Minikin taking that first reserve centre spot from Wrench.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:44 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

We have missed him. A few weeks back we had a relatively unhappy Wrench out there.
We are a long way off having to think whether he will get in the 17 or not.

Thats a fair point, we have missed the cover at times this season, so from a squad point of view he has been missed. I think it will be a blessing in disguise really, maybe it's one of those things that will work out well in the end, Ashton and in particular thewlis got more gametime than they would have if minikin was fit. I would think thewlis is well and truly in Powells long term plans now and matty Ashton has done himself no harm either.

I wasn't aiming a pop and saying we don't need Minikin by the way, more suggesting the youngsters who have covered have done well.

I think the timing for Harrison will be good as well, the pack have upped their game massively IMO from the earlier rounds. It wouldn't have been great for him to be thrown in to a regularly beaten pack at the start of the season and expected to be our saviour. Hopefully he will be eased in under a bit less pressure in June, I think the pressure will be on Philbin when Harrison is fit.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:02 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

We seem to agree on most points, other than how have we missed Minikin?

Just to clarify. Obviously Powell rates him so I think it is fair to say he would have played some games at the very least and that means we have missed him.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:04 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Thats a fair point, we have missed the cover at times this season, so from a squad point of view he has been missed. I think it will be a blessing in disguise really, maybe it's one of those things that will work out well in the end, Ashton and in particular thewlis got more gametime than they would have if minikin was fit. I would think thewlis is well and truly in Powells long term plans now and matty Ashton has done himself no harm either.

I wasn't aiming a pop and saying we don't need Minikin by the way, more suggesting the youngsters who have covered have done well.

I think the timing for Harrison will be good as well, the pack have upped their game massively IMO from the earlier rounds. It wouldn't have been great for him to be thrown in to a regularly beaten pack at the start of the season and expected to be our saviour. Hopefully he will be eased in under a bit less pressure in June, I think the pressure will be on Philbin when Harrison is fit.

This is how I believe we haven't missed Minikin. It's unfortunate for Minikin that he has been injured and not been able to turn out for us, but we don't know how that has affected how effective he will now be. I wish him well and look forward to him performing and deserving a shirt on the strength of his performances, as I would with any other member of our squad. Until then, I cannot miss something that I've never had.

Re: New Prop : Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:10 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

Just to clarify. Obviously Powell rates him so I think it is fair to say he would have played some games at the very least and that means we have missed him.

That would be fine if the players who have steeped in hadn't have performed. Powell obviously rates Holmes, but I've been totally underwhelmed by him so far, therefore, it's not a given that Minikin would have performed at the level we would want. I cannot miss if buts and maybes.