Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:19 am  

Boss Hog wrote:

I agree, it depends on how much Charnley is prepared to lose off his current salary during contract negotiations with Wire for his prospective 2023 onwards contract.

The forwards that Wire need for next year will consume a lot more Salary Cap space than the current incumbents, and hence the need to reduce expenditure elsewhere.

The salaries of widdop, ratchford, Hughes and Jason Clark alone should get us a top class prop and maybe another second rower(not been impressed with Holmes one bit). I don't think charnley staying or going, although I think he's off, should affect our chances of improving the pack.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:50 am  

I think our fans take Ashton for granted or underrate him. Other than get injured and make ONE mistake in a semi final, he really hasn't put a foot wrong since he joined us. He is so exciting when he gets the ball with any room.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:21 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

The salaries of widdop, ratchford, Hughes and Jason Clark alone should get us a top class prop and maybe another second rower(not been impressed with Holmes one bit). I don't think charnley staying or going, although I think he's off, should affect our chances of improving the pack.

Be interesting to see what Powell decides. The brave move could be to not replace Widdop and use Ratchford at half to transition Dean to the role as 2023 progresses. Thewlis full back full time.

Widdop money to spend big on a prop.

Hughes and Clark money to bring in someone capable of covering Back Row / Loose position from the bench rotating with Magoulias if he stays. Tanginoa has been mentioned, seemed great when he joined Wakey but seems a little quieter recently playing predominantly prop I think so not sure what’s happened there.

Mulhern & Cooper out of contract, both worth of a spot in 2023 I think if we can bring in a significant prop signing.

Whitehead, Burgess & Gannon to hopefully kick on and provide support for injuries.

Holmes will come good I think, already an upgrade on Hughes and I’m not sure Longstaff is ready to take the role full time.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:03 pm  

Rumoured to be in for Tanginoa.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:14 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Be interesting to see what Powell decides. The brave move could be to not replace Widdop and use Ratchford at half to transition Dean to the role as 2023 progresses. Thewlis full back full time.

Seems more of a common sense move than a brave move. You've proven that spending marquee money on halfbacks is not the way to go and Thewlis should be nailing the fullback spot this year, nevermind next. Dean too, difficult to see how you drop him after that performance against Huddersfield and if he repeats that surely what you suggest happens?

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:39 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Seems more of a common sense move than a brave move. You've proven that spending marquee money on halfbacks is not the way to go and Thewlis should be nailing the fullback spot this year, nevermind next. Dean too, difficult to see how you drop him after that performance against Huddersfield and if he repeats that surely what you suggest happens?

Honestly my assumption has been he would try and bring Trueman over.

Ratchford has struggled at half back in the past and Dean is only 3/4 games in to his career, so yes I think it would be brave.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:20 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Honestly my assumption has been he would try and bring Trueman over.

Ratchford has struggled at half back in the past and Dean is only 3/4 games in to his career, so yes I think it would be brave.

Trueman is off to Hull allegedly.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:35 pm  

I'd be surprised if Charnley is here next year. I think the players leaving will be, Charnley, Hughes, Widdop, Butler, J.Clark and a few others.
More than enough cap space to sort our weak points out. I'm a big fan of Olly Holmes but he's definately off the boil, but he missed some pre-season and with suspensions needs a bit of time. He's MUCH better than he's shown us so far.
Harrison looks to be 3-4 weeks off maybe making his debut. Hoping he does well but no pressure on him at all as it will be awhile until he gets form and full fitness.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:32 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Be interesting to see what Powell decides. The brave move could be to not replace Widdop and use Ratchford at half to transition Dean to the role as 2023 progresses. Thewlis full back full time.

Widdop money to spend big on a prop.

Hughes and Clark money to bring in someone capable of covering Back Row / Loose position from the bench rotating with Magoulias if he stays. Tanginoa has been mentioned, seemed great when he joined Wakey but seems a little quieter recently playing predominantly prop I think so not sure what’s happened there.

Mulhern & Cooper out of contract, both worth of a spot in 2023 I think if we can bring in a significant prop signing.

Whitehead, Burgess & Gannon to hopefully kick on and provide support for injuries.

Holmes will come good I think, already an upgrade on Hughes and I’m not sure Longstaff is ready to take the role full time.

I agree that Ratchford could be retained, if he is realistic about his contract value.

The young guns coming into out team, will demand salaries considerably more than the buttons that they are currently being paid, as they sign their next contracts.

Hence they will consume some of the Salary Cap, that is being released by the players leaving.

Re: New Prop : Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:38 pm  

Ashton needs longer boot studs.
He has done too much slipping these last 2 games.