Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:47 pm  

chris2925 wrote:

Where can I find a breakdown of the points awarded by category?

Was hoping to find them also. I know I keep banging on about how have Castleford got grade A, but I would really to be interested in the breakdown of their score. It’s gone up from last season I keep seeing that they are making improvements to the stadium I can’t see that unless someone put one of them bleach blocks in the loo or something.

Why it’s making my blood boil when the RFL brought licences in there was an understanding that clubs had to improve the grounds Wakefield and Castleford was just a stream of constant excuses. At least Wakefield have finally got round to it but I don’t see it at Cas and now we getting a told they have new owners. But am I right in thinking that’s not actually gone through yet and it’s just another excuse to duck the issues. I of course stand to be corrected.

For what it’s worth I often think I’d rather be back at Wilderspool but get for reasons I’m having a go at Cas we had to have better facilities.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:14 pm  

As a Hull fan, the performance rating is justified, we have been awful. However, for Wakefield to score higher than us in that regard when we have finished above them in the 'standings' every year since 2009 is daft.

We got downgraded for our 2 LED big screens, being too big - hence the pixel quality is diminished apparently. They are UEFA approved, but not IMG - bizarre. We also get penalised for having 2 professional clubs in the same City, yet we are not allowed to include places like Beverley, Willerby, and other West Hull suburbs in our catchment despite having a large supporter base from those areas! When LED screens score higher than Academy, Junior Development etc. just shows how flawed it all is

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:33 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Was hoping to find them also. I know I keep banging on about how have Castleford got grade A, but I would really to be interested in the breakdown of their score. It’s gone up from last season I keep seeing that they are making improvements to the stadium I can’t see that unless someone put one of them bleach blocks in the loo or something.

Why it’s making my blood boil when the RFL brought licences in there was an understanding that clubs had to improve the grounds Wakefield and Castleford was just a stream of constant excuses. At least Wakefield have finally got round to it but I don’t see it at Cas and now we getting a told they have new owners. But am I right in thinking that’s not actually gone through yet and it’s just another excuse to duck the issues. I of course stand to be corrected.

For what it’s worth I often think I’d rather be back at Wilderspool but get for reasons I’m having a go at Cas we had to have better facilities.

the thread on total rl has some bits n pieces in, worth a read

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:38 pm  

RFL bringing talks forward to go to 14 team league for 2026. Can see the existing clubs vetoing this straight away because they won’t want to dilute the current pot of money.

The RFL and the clubs and IMG really need to focus on improving the finances, yeh yeh struggling economy etc etc but thousands still turning up to football and other spectator sports every week which broadcasters and sponsors like, so as a sport we really need to tap into this much better rather than the mentality of looking after are own interests first which Rugby League as done for far to long.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:41 pm  

So Wakey back in SL, then.
I bear them no animosity as a club, but I REALLY hope we put 80 past them on both games, because of that Yorkshire winker, who nearly got us relegated, and decimated our playing roster, as some of them were "bad apples". Irony lost on him, then.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:15 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Was hoping to find them also. I know I keep banging on about how have Castleford got grade A, but I would really to be interested in the breakdown of their score. It’s gone up from last season I keep seeing that they are making improvements to the stadium I can’t see that unless someone put one of them bleach blocks in the loo or something.

Why it’s making my blood boil when the RFL brought licences in there was an understanding that clubs had to improve the grounds Wakefield and Castleford was just a stream of constant excuses. At least Wakefield have finally got round to it but I don’t see it at Cas and now we getting a told they have new owners. But am I right in thinking that’s not actually gone through yet and it’s just another excuse to duck the issues. I of course stand to be corrected.

For fwhat it’s worth I often think I’d rather be back at Wilderspool but get for reasons I’m having a go at Cas we had to have better facilities.

You should think yourself lucky that Warrington were one of the lucky ones to find someone to buy their ‘ ground’. True Cas are still looking to get there with a new stadium, but it’s not for the want of trying. The positive is that, whatever you think of Wheldon Road, it belongs to the club. Not many that can say that. Also, others are fortunate to have a sugar daddy owner to bank roll them and we don’t have that either, though Martin Jepson’s involvement has made things a bit healthier.

At the end of the day, the truth is Warrington is just a Cas but with more cash. Never forget your roots.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:29 pm  

Returnee wrote:

You should think yourself lucky that Warrington were one of the lucky ones to find someone to buy their ‘ ground’. True Cas are still looking to get there with a new stadium, but it’s not for the want of trying. The positive is that, whatever you think of Wheldon Road, it belongs to the club. Not many that can say that. Also, others are fortunate to have a sugar daddy owner to bank roll them and we don’t have that either, though Martin Jepson’s involvement has made things a bit healthier.

At the end of the day, the truth is Warrington is just a Cas but with more cash. Never forget your roots.

I take onboard your points. But I go back to original licensing and all clubs were told improvements had to be made or lose your license. How ever it happened our club got it done irrelevant of who paid for the stadium etc we done what was asked. For years the likes of Wakefield and Castleford kept getting away with it. All I can say on that is fair play that they did because end of the day the RFL did not follow through on the processes. Wakefield finally got it going and yet to see what Cas do. Like I said I’d rather be at Wilderspool for me atmosphere at HJ as never come close etc but I know end of day we could not stay there.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:03 pm  

It can't all be down to the stadium. Widnes had a new stadium in the early days of SL & were still shown the door.

Re: IMG : Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:14 pm  

ninearches wrote:

It can't all be down to the stadium. Widnes had a new stadium in the early days of SL & were still shown the door.

That stadium is so dark I needed to use a torch to see the teams on the pitch.

Re: IMG : Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:33 pm  

Irregs#16 wrote:

As a Hull fan, the performance rating is justified, we have been awful. However, for Wakefield to score higher than us in that regard when we have finished above them in the 'standings' every year since 2009 is daft.

We got downgraded for our 2 LED big screens, being too big - hence the pixel quality is diminished apparently. They are UEFA approved, but not IMG - bizarre. We also get penalised for having 2 professional clubs in the same City, yet we are not allowed to include places like Beverley, Willerby, and other West Hull suburbs in our catchment despite having a large supporter base from those areas! When LED screens score higher than Academy, Junior Development etc. just shows how flawed it all is

Isn't this the whole point though.

Rugby League is stagnating.
- Sky deal reducing
- Clubs in financial trouble
- Less juniors playing the game
- Etc, Etc

If we continue with the same model, then nothing will change, and whilst I disagree with some of the criteria and the weightings, the idea is to not apply focus on the on field performance of clubs as that doesn't help with growth. The criteria is focusing on viewers, stadium facilities, website clicks etc. It is clearly marketing heavy, but you can see the direction is towards trying to grow the sport. Although one absolutely stinking omission is the mentioning of academies.