Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:53 pm  

Josh McGuire is 32, will be 33 in March, is currently injured and has only played in about 5 or 6 games all year. Good player, a touch on the dirty side, but I wouldn’t think his best days are in front of him.

Vaughan is a big guy, but again, 30’s. Tough to judge in a Bulldogs team that are so poor, but seems to plod on ok. Think better value for money may be Vaughan on this, but not exciting.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:55 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Hill and Cooper in the pack repeatedly failed to win the GF.
Our recruitment for 2023 is not done yet. Let's see.

That’s what I’m concerned about! We weren’t quite good enough, but instead we are flooding the team full of has-beens and Cas old boys. Chayse Blair and James Clare will be coming next

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:55 pm  

What would we have thought had we kept Cooper at 34 and by doing so Vaughan went to Wigan? Would that have been a good result? I’d have looked on enviously had that been the case.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:49 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

What would we have thought had we kept Cooper at 34 and by doing so Vaughan went to Wigan? Would that have been a good result? I’d have looked on enviously had that been the case.

Wigan fans may have been envious when they retained Ben Flower while we signed Roy Asotasi to be fair, but we know how that went. Aussie props aren’t always the best investment, but with Cooper we know what we have, what condition and that he turns in a shift. 12 months on reduced terms with an option would have been a good deal all round

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:55 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Wigan fans may have been envious when they retained Ben Flower while we signed Roy Asotasi to be fair, but we know how that went. Aussie props aren’t always the best investment, but with Cooper we know what we have, what condition and that he turns in a shift. 12 months on reduced terms with an option would have been a good deal all round

Thing is we can't criticise Powell on getting nothing out of the current players AND criticise him when he tries to change the players. Powell believes Cooper has gone stale. Maybe it's his 10% missed tackle stats, maybe it's the clothing business, maybe it's his age, maybe his attitude - we just don't know.

We can judge Powell in 2023.

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:11 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Wigan fans may have been envious when they retained Ben Flower while we signed Roy Asotasi to be fair, but we know how that went. Aussie props aren’t always the best investment, but with Cooper we know what we have, what condition and that he turns in a shift. 12 months on reduced terms with an option would have been a good deal all round

Yeah we have a bloke who’s seemingly more interested in selling bob hats than training for his hometown club. Backing Powell 100% here.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:19 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Hill and Cooper in the pack repeatedly failed to win the GF.
Our recruitment for 2023 is not done yet. Let's see.

I have agreed with virtually all of your recent posts on Powell and recruitment. However, to be fair we've lost repeated GFs in spite of them not because of them if that's not too daft a proposition

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:20 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Thing is we can't criticise Powell on getting nothing out of the current players AND criticise him when he tries to change the players. Powell believes Cooper has gone stale. Maybe it's his 10% missed tackle stats, maybe it's the clothing business, maybe it's his age, maybe his attitude - we just don't know.

We can judge Powell in 2023.

Why? Why can’t paying fans critique the performance, seeing a capable group capitulate infront of our eyes, including conceding 40 points 3 weeks out of 4. Any stats fans know the last time we conceded 40 before Powell?

Why must we wait to see a new group of players come in, then the old “time to gel” excuse just to get to Easter next year before any criticism becomes valid.

We had a group of nearly men, we now have a disjointed group who are 80 minutes off being 11th. The signings in so far and on the horizon don’t inspire progression or change, the don’t appear to allow room for development for youth. We’ve dropped a winger and the kids despite having bad apples and bad attitudes, why not put Cooper on the naughty step if he’s such a poor pro?

But we’re to sit back, stump up our season ticket money and just accept it because he’s only been in the job since October…

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:22 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Yeah we have a bloke who’s seemingly more interested in selling bob hats than training for his hometown club. Backing Powell 100% here.

DROP HIM THEN!! Why is he starting every week if he’s too busy running a business. Can’t have it both ways!

Re: Cooper to Wigan confirmed : Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:33 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Any stats fans know the last time we conceded 40 before Powell?

June 4th 2017

4 - 44 vs Huddersfield