Re: what positions are our weakest? : Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:56 am  

Wires71 wrote:

I'd like him to show a modicum of aggression and passion.

He's not alone in this ....some players are here for paychecks based upon past reputations and are not all in effort wise to win ... the club themselves aren't really of the necessary mindset either ....for example charging stupid money for a meet and greet with the new coach ...money for nothing as dire straits once sang is the root of the indifference by club and players towards the bigger supposed goal

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:04 am  

Currently it seems the CEO!

£55 to £80 to meet Sam Burgess!

It’s obviously not targeted at the fans, who are the club trying to connect with!

Fgs, someone really doesn’t have a clue.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:30 am  

If currie needs a dominant pack to get the best out of him then the club have failed him massively by failing to provide it. This season has been better and I hope it will be better again next year. Currie is still one of our best players IMO, yes id like to see a bit more from him but it's been hard for anyone to look effective in our recent attack which has been clunky at best. I'd like to see philbin as an impact 2nd row, he'd maybe need to improve his passing skills though.

Let's see what gleeson can bring to the team with a solid pre season and a coach that hopefully demands more from the squad.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:07 am  

Don’t they always do some form of pre season meet the coach / player / function? Given the reduction in central funding over the past few years I wouldn’t be too critical of them looking to exploit every angle.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:45 am  

A chance to meet an actual legend of the game before he devotes himself entirely to coaching. An opportunity for the club to get some money in the coffers. I really don’t see the problem.
(Trying to compare meeting Peets when he was appointed to Burgess shows how desperate some are to criticise our club.)

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:39 am  

I think the front row is the general weakness. A lot of this can be remedied quickly, with a bit more preparedness and attention to detail, players like Philbin and Bullock ‘can’ be really effective, but we need to balance out the impact with with resilience and consistency that Vaughan provides.

Harrison will be better for a full season in the Super League under his belt. Musgrove adds another big body. I just think that we need to get a grind/dirty job man in that 13 shirt. Crowther makes sense. He’s not a great ball carrier but is a grafter off the ball, works hard in defence and puts pressure on kickers. But, the temptation would be to just throw all the big guys on at once to try and blow teams away in attack, but that needs the balance in my opinion. Harrison did this really well to support Morley and Carvell. I’m sure it won’t be lost on Burgess, having Clark playing that role in his South’s pack.

Centres need work, but that is taking shape now.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:20 pm  

In all honesty a lot of damage was done to our attack when the club signed two forwards who could only do 15 minute stints. Add to that the McGuire saga & Mikaele going home early & injuries to other forwards & Vaughan was left with too much to do in most games. How could we hope to get on the front foot ?

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:24 pm  

There are a number of positions where we could be better and some where we're pretty good.

My big concern is that I don't see in our squad a leader, the one geeing them up or giving out bollockings behind the sticks, the one pushing the rules to breaking point and beyond, the one ruthlessly doing absolutely whatever it takes to get the win and take his team with him. If I'm missing the obvious candidate please point it out to me but I just don't think we have one.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:34 pm  

Kevin Turvey wrote:

There are a number of positions where we could be better and some where we're pretty good.

My big concern is that I don't see in our squad a leader, the one geeing them up or giving out bollockings behind the sticks, the one pushing the rules to breaking point and beyond, the one ruthlessly doing absolutely whatever it takes to get the win and take his team with him. If I'm missing the obvious candidate please point it out to me but I just don't think we have one.

We have not had one since Briers. I know Morley was the captain but Briers was the voice.

Re: what positions are our weakest? : Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:40 pm  

karetaker wrote:

We have not had one since Briers. I know Morley was the captain but Briers was the voice.

Indeed, and I haven't seen one this year and can't see one in next years squad unless Burgess is going to get back on the field.