Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:32 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

Quite surprised at the (over) analysis of yates.

He's been fine since coming in.

He's played 13/middle at Huddersfield, Salford and London with no problems.

Based on our set up, at 1/6/7 and 9 it's not essential to have another creative type at 13 just someone who can pass slightly above average

Yep I'm surprised too. Stinks a bit of someone watching 20 minutes where he hasn't played so well & deciding he's not a good player. Yates is a very decent player.
I also see the usual bit of crap thrown at Drinkwater & Bateman. Does it make some feel better to criticise players?

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:43 pm  

The Speculator wrote:

That video ref fiasco was bizarre. It was evident on first or second viewing that it was a try, but he takes five minutes desperately trying to find a way of disallowing it, then at the very point where he (wrongly) seems to be suggesting that the hand has come away from the ball, he gives the try!

Sky & video refs seem to have a system of asking for the most obscure angles to be shown then when the decision has been made a later shot of the action shows a much clearer & simpler angle.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:55 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Sky & video refs seem to have a system of asking for the most obscure angles to be shown then when the decision has been made a later shot of the action shows a much clearer & simpler angle.

Just wish we could do away with the video ref full stop. Taking far to long with a decision and now players staying down to get penalties to which both coaches made comment on in post match interview. Yates yellow card was wrong for me, actually saw a worse hit than that later and it was just a penalty. If you go back all though you can’t now but was a case for penalty try when Wray was scoring. I really dislike the video ref system.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:47 pm  

I have no problem with having a video ref but think if it goes up it should just be “try, yes or no� then no undue influence from the on field ref.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:48 pm  

For example no video ref would have meant CTW’s try chalked off.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:21 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

Not quite I'm saying it's ok to have yates at 13, it's not the end of the world.

And I know its trendy to hate on drinkwater, I'm not nailing any ultra defensive colours to a mast, but burgess williams and dufty have been complimentary about what drinkwater has been doing in order to let them play.

Where is the hate on Drinkwater? He works hard but is limited as an attacking/creative threat, even if he will very occasionally do something very good and then you wonder why it is so rare.

Not sure what the 'trendy' stuff is about.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:04 am  

Drinkwater does hold the game well.
So often with a money ball or kick that goes without recognition.

We loose, Drinky now, and we are in trouble.

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:05 am  

just_browny wrote:

Where is the hate on Drinkwater? He works hard but is limited as an attacking/creative threat, even if he will very occasionally do something very good and then you wonder why it is so rare.

Not sure what the 'trendy' stuff is about.

No hate on Yates either, just my opinion he ain’t a prop who makes meters, Duckie was on Vaughans case as not making meters. In my view Vaughan is one of best prop forwards in super league. Along side Thompson at Wigan. As for Drinkwater he just steadys the flow , so Williams can play what he sees in front of him.. I’ve no problem with that style of play with Drinkwater.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:13 pm  

Bobby Digital wrote:

No hate on Yates either, just my opinion he ain’t a prop who makes meters, Duckie was on Vaughans case as not making meters. In my view Vaughan is one of best prop forwards in super league. Along side Thompson at Wigan. As for Drinkwater he just steadys the flow , so Williams can play what he sees in front of him.. I’ve no problem with that style of play with Drinkwater.

We already know that's not yates game, he's defensive (hard tackling) middle

Re: Tonight’s game v Castleford : Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:47 pm  

Rod Tai has been the unsung hero of this season. He's defensively very sound, makes hard yards and wants to promote the ball when opportunity allows. He's been a great addition to the squad. Yates reminds me of Danny Nuttley, who was another grafter and grinder. He does the grunt well, usually, but everyone has an error or two in them. Drinkwater is another in that mould, but I just want to see more from a half back, and his kicking game isn't as good as Walker's. It really is a great advantage to have someone who has the ability to pinpoint a kick on the final play of a set of six, at Old Trafford. I don't see Drinkwater as that player. That's opinion, not hate, before I get labelled by anyone on here.