Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:38 am  

West Walian wrote:

Ref gave a penalty try so could not show a card. One or the other but not both.

I can't see any reference to that in the laws of the game.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:02 am  

Boss Hog wrote:

When Powell decided to release Mamo, I had mixed feelings whether he had made the right call.

His defence was his main problem, but yesterday he couldn`t pass a ball to a supporting player on several breaks.

Looks like Daryl was correct.

i mean you say this, but these weren't burning issues that could be used to justify getting rid at the time, defence possibly, but i can't recall him having problems passing balls on a break for us. His decision making was usually pretty good.

bearing in mind broadbent and others had handling errors/brainfarts, i'd say its a cas problem rather than just a jake problem.

thats before you even cast an eye at westerman's 15 hour bender a week before the season starting.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:03 am  

Being a Saints player you will obviously have to consider his impeccable previous behaviour ( a la Makinson's nut grab) so I think a ban is likely out of the question.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:32 am  

The Railwayman wrote:

Being a Saints player you will obviously have to consider his impeccable previous behaviour ( a la Makinson's nut grab) so I think a ban is likely out of the question.

They'd just appeal it 'til it was overturned anyway

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:36 pm  

Cas should have had three scores on the board in the first half and with Saints being in front at half time, with the benefit of the slope in the second, I'd gone to do something else rather than watch any more of it.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:32 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Cas should have had three scores on the board in the first half and with Saints being in front at half time, with the benefit of the slope in the second, I'd gone to do something else rather than watch any more of it.

Cas certainly blew their chances but it was interesting how often they broke the Saints defence by going wide to the pace of Mamo. Food for thought.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:40 pm  

The Speculator wrote:

Cas certainly blew their chances but it was interesting how often they broke the Saints defence by going wide to the pace of Mamo. Food for thought.

Yeah, a lot of our fans blaming Ritson and Hurrell for that, but I suspect it's not entirely their fault. That whole edge was disorganised because Sironen pulled out in the warm up before the game. Which meant Bell playing second row on the right. Sironen communicates well with Hurrell and ensures he only has to worry about his outside shoulder and Makinson is the best defensive winger in Super League so it's not normally a huge issue. Without Sironon and Makinson, Hurrell looked exposed and Ritson is going to take some time to adapt. Good job for us it was Mamo and not Qareqare galloping away as we might have conceeded 60, not 6.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:46 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

They'd just appeal it 'til it was overturned anyway

They text Mike Rush last night to pre-emptively apologise for giving him a Grade A - no further action. The cheek of it.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:15 pm  

The cheek indeed, I sincerely hope the next time one of our players is cited for a high tackle its a grade a, no further action but I'm willing to bet that's not how it goes. That tackle by Welby was a bad one and it was deliberately to stop the try, I have absolutely no idea how he stayed on the field at the time and then no ban is truly baffling IMO.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:20 pm  

CW8 wrote:

The cheek indeed, I sincerely hope the next time one of our players is cited for a high tackle its a grade a, no further action but I'm willing to bet that's not how it goes. That tackle by Welby was a bad one and it was deliberately to stop the try, I have absolutely no idea how he stayed on the field at the time and then no ban is truly baffling IMO.

So you would red card him and ban him for that? It was with an open hand, first impact was on the top of his arm and it slips up and catches the head with a grab motion. I think he'd have got a yellow for a professional foul had he not given the penalty try, but they don't give both. They could of course have said red card for violent conduct, but I don't think it in any way warrants that. If that happens in the middle of the field, they don't even consider a card.

I think the start the disciplinary have made is good. They are using fines to disincentivise foul play and not bans for minor incidents. Welsby's grab when stepped definitely fits that for me.