Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:02 pm  

wire2004 wrote:

Something seems a bit fishy with Justin Holbrooks sudden change of heart. The tickets were booked. Until he talked to his wife apparently. It was 24 hours. What changed in 24 hours. Surely they are not that stupid to have not had the conversation 2 months ago when things started getting vocal and he was being linked to the job then that when Middleton came in with the offer. This is what they would've taken and accepted and all that backroom stuff families talk about.

It didn't happen like this. A big clue in your synopsis is the word 'apparently.' Nothing changed in 24 hours. So a bit of perspective of what's happened is probably needed ...........

Holbrook and his Manager were very honest in the meeting with Warrington. He told the club he was very flattered with the offer, but his wife & family were firmly against a move to the Uk again, but he'd ask her out of respect to Warrington as he wanted the move. His Manager then leaked the offer to the Oz press and used us to get a better offer for his client. An annoyingly good move for Holbrook.

The rumour mill then went in to over-drive with the usual exaggerations and added info that comes with Wire related news. I've never had as many messages on here so quickly telling me they'd heard Holbrook had signed with details of his deal, how many years etc all from 'a very reliable source.' For a split second I was believing it myself, and then remembered it wasn't true as he'd turned down the offer.

What I can't get my head around is the booking of the flights, which is absolutely true. But then knowing what I know about how the club has been run over the past couple of years it shouldn't have come as a surprise.

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:27 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

i've got mixed feelings on this, the whole set up.

I'm not a massive fan of the director of rugby position, i can see why people would want it but for me, its just another person to blame when things are going wrong

Fingers crossed though, it all comes together, now the wire.

You make some good points in your post FMC.
But on the whole my position has shifted this week from incredulity to quietly excited. Based on the latest feedback it looks like Burgess is asking the right questions and demanding the right information.
When he comes over in a few months he'll already be up and running.

The spec of the DOR job is not clear to me, neither is the reporting structure so difficult to comment on Chambers suitability, but he does know the club and may well provide a good sounding board for SB.
It is important though that KF doesn't unduly muddy the waters.

My image is that a typical DOR needs a wider experience but we'll see.

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:58 pm  

Abe Froman wrote:

But then knowing what I know about how the club has been run over the past couple of years it shouldn't have come as a surprise.

I think we may be better off not knowing, and assuming a slick, well oiled machine.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:39 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

I think we may be better off not knowing, and assuming a slick, well oiled machine.

When you say "well oiled"..........

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:51 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

i've got mixed feelings on this, the whole set up.

SNIP within the NRL, most of the experienced options, all had the stink of failure on them, anyone that had failed as a head coach would have been poop on from day one, i'm not the biggest nrl fan but from looking at twitter and speaking to mates who are, anyone thats been sacked in the last 4 years has a black mark of ''AVOID' over them, even holbrook had it from some on here for his time at gold coast. and to be honest, if we did choose one of them, it would feel the same as when we signed price, he was nowhere in the list of original names and the moment we got linked with him, a lot of people got the 'sour milk' expression. SNIP

When I read this it took me straight to the Monty Python Australian Table Wine sketch, particularly the Perth Pink and the Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit Sans....

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:00 pm  

Our next Messiah coach could well be Monty Python's Brian.

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:54 pm  

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, ask his missus.

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:19 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Our next Messiah coach could well be Monty Python's Brian.

We couldn't get Bwian released from his current contract.

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:27 pm  

BrianBradyHandOff wrote:

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, ask his missus.

I hope you will be getting a season ticket Dave ! ?

Re: New Coach : Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:30 pm  

OnTheBeach wrote:

Is Sean Bernard Long joining the party?

love rugby league (for what it’s worth) are saying no - he’s going as assistant to Applegarth at Wakey.