Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:32 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Cas have got Catalan, Huddersfield, Leeds, Saints and Wigan left to play. If they only win two of those (which I'd argue isn't that unlikely) then you would overtake them if you win your last five games, so I hardly see how they are dead rubbers, more like every game is now a 'must-win' game for you. That is totally in keeping with the 'every minute matters' slogan

Let's for the sake of argument, say that we beat the Pies on Friday, Saints beat Huddersfield (looking less likely now than it should do) and Catalan beat Cas. Huddersfield 30 points, Cas 30 points, Wire 26.
After the break for the cup final we play Hull at home whilst Huddersfield play Cas. Assuming we win and Huddersfield win too (worst possible result for us?) then Huddersfield 32 points, Cas 30 and Wire 28.
If (by some miracle) results do go our way we then come up against Huddersfield whilst Cas entertain Saints. Another win and Cas turning over Saints (worst possible result again) then it's Huddersfield 32 points, Cas 32 points, Wire 30.
Penultimate week and Cas visit Leeds, Huddersfield visit Hull and we entertain Catalan. Quite possibley Huddersfield 34 points, Wire 32 and Cas 32.
Final week and Huddersfield entertain Leeds, Cas visit Wigan and we visit Saints. Should we beat Saints then there is every chance that we will end the season on 34 points level with Huddersfield and 2 points ahead of Cas.

I appreciate that it would take a dramatic turn around in our fortunes to win those 5 games, but stranger things have happened. We will have a bearing on whether the Pies finish in the top two and get a home semi final or have to travel to Saints (or maybe Leeds). We may be the difference as to whether Saints get a home semi final. We could make all the difference between Huddersfield or Castleford or even ourselves finishing in fourth place.

We're not down to 'dead rubbers' yet.

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:03 am  

You haven't considered the points against us v Huddersfield. It's mathematically possible, it's odds of happening could also be worked out, Im not clever enough to do it, but it would certainly be greater than seeing Elvis alive, which strangely is only 100/1 and 1000/1 if you want to request him being seen alive in Tesco.

The odds will be available from Monday. I would expect Warrington wouldn't even have a mention and you would need to request it.

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:54 am  

So if the team also buy into Mr Duck's dead rubber theory we could see some true cricket scores against us in the next few week. I just hope none of the players read this forum.

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:59 am  

hmm some good arguments for and against the system... But our Leader Tony smith says it best today on the BBC website.... we are playing for pride and nothing else.....!!!!! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/33929335 the super 8's is two rounds in and its over.....We have to settle for jumping for glee if we put a spanner in the works of one of the big clubs......other than that lads try your best... "play for pride" thats the stuff people ridiculed Cullen for..... I think Smith can go for me..he's starting to irritate me a bit now. and for those that thought I had a wires only stance on the system, How can anyone think that Hull Or Catalan (who came close to the second tier ) playing against Leigh, Bradford or Halifax Sheffield etc would have been good for the game......yes it would be exactly where they deserved to be because they didnt get enough points. but it would have set two big clubs back considerably. we should not be making a bigger sub standard division...

hmm some good arguments for and against the system... But our Leader Tony smith says it best today on the BBC website.... we are playing for pride and nothing else.....!!!!! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/33929335 the super 8's is two rounds in and its over.....We have to settle for jumping for glee if we put a spanner in the works of one of the big clubs......other than that lads try your best... "play for pride" thats the stuff people ridiculed Cullen for..... I think Smith can go for me..he's starting to irritate me a bit now. and for those that thought I had a wires only stance on the system, How can anyone think that Hull Or Catalan (who came close to the second tier ) playing against Leigh, Bradford or Halifax Sheffield etc would have been good for the game......yes it would be exactly where they deserved to be because they didnt get enough points. but it would have set two big clubs back considerably. we should not be making a bigger sub standard division...

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:09 am  

Ironic. I wish we were playing for pride last Thursday night.

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:41 am  

Tony smith tony smiths tactics or lack of tony smiths indifference tony smiths recruitment n.tony smiths team selection??

This is a side he has built or dismantled depends how you look at it, we persevered with cull for too long and maybe doing the same with smith. Sentiment and past results dint win games re

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:44 pm  

the flying biscuit wrote: hmm some good arguments for and against the system... But our Leader Tony smith says it best today on the BBC website.... we are playing for pride and nothing else.....!!!!! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/33929335 the super 8's is two rounds in and its over.....We have to settle for jumping for glee if we put a spanner in the works of one of the big clubs......other than that lads try your best... "play for pride" thats the stuff people ridiculed Cullen for..... I think Smith can go for me..he's starting to irritate me a bit now. and for those that thought I had a wires only stance on the system, How can anyone think that Hull Or Catalan (who came close to the second tier ) playing against Leigh, Bradford or Halifax Sheffield etc would have been good for the game......yes it would be exactly where they deserved to be because they didnt get enough points. but it would have set two big clubs back considerably. we should not be making a bigger sub standard division... Did you have a chance of making the top 4 when the super 8's started?

the flying biscuit wrote: hmm some good arguments for and against the system... But our Leader Tony smith says it best today on the BBC website.... we are playing for pride and nothing else.....!!!!! http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/33929335 the super 8's is two rounds in and its over.....We have to settle for jumping for glee if we put a spanner in the works of one of the big clubs......other than that lads try your best... "play for pride" thats the stuff people ridiculed Cullen for..... I think Smith can go for me..he's starting to irritate me a bit now. and for those that thought I had a wires only stance on the system, How can anyone think that Hull Or Catalan (who came close to the second tier ) playing against Leigh, Bradford or Halifax Sheffield etc would have been good for the game......yes it would be exactly where they deserved to be because they didnt get enough points. but it would have set two big clubs back considerably. we should not be making a bigger sub standard division... Did you have a chance of making the top 4 when the super 8's started?

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:58 pm  

What's with the mouthy Leigh fan that seems to be obsessed about posting on this forum?

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:33 pm  

atomic wrote:

Did you have a chance of making the top 4 when the super 8's started?

No. The team wasn't good enough before a ball was kicked. We didn't just suddenly turn shaat last month.

Re: 5 Dead Rubbers : Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:37 pm  

Please feel free not to turn up next Friday, if we (Wigan) lose and given our away form that's not stretching the bounds of possibility, we'll be under all sorts of pressure to make the top four, same as Saints.