[Uncle Rico]

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm  

Wires71 wrote: Wasn't their talk of a forward pass detector in the ball? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/spor ... index.html With today's digital image processing power it is perfectly possible to detect, after the event, if the ball went forward with reference to the player at the point of passing. I'm not sure (about much admittedly these days) but wasn't there always an argument/issue about momentum, the point of release and relative forward travel from the passer moving forward whilst passing

Wires71 wrote: Wasn't their talk of a forward pass detector in the ball? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/spor ... index.html With today's digital image processing power it is perfectly possible to detect, after the event, if the ball went forward with reference to the player at the point of passing. I'm not sure (about much admittedly these days) but wasn't there always an argument/issue about momentum, the point of release and relative forward travel from the passer moving forward whilst passing

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:27 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I'm not sure (about much admittedly these days) but wasn't there always an argument/issue about momentum, the point of release and relative forward travel from the passer moving forward whilst passing

Yes the forward velocity of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward velocity of the ball just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

Example. Player running at 25km/h forward velocity passes ball, ball is measured to have 25km/h forward velocity then it's a flat pass. > 25km/h it's a forward pass. No reference to the pitch, just the velocity of the player and ball is compared.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:32 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Yes the forward speed of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward speed of the ball with just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

How much ball tampering would be needed at the St Helens 49ers

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:12 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Uncle Rico wrote:

I'm not sure (about much admittedly these days) but wasn't there always an argument/issue about momentum, the point of release and relative forward travel from the passer moving forward whilst passing

Yes the forward velocity of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward velocity of the ball just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

Example. Player running at 25km/h forward velocity passes ball, ball is measured to have 25km/h forward velocity then it's a flat pass. > 25km/h it's a forward pass. No reference to the pitch, just the velocity of the player and ball is compared.

I think that's an attempt to baffle cloth cap brains with utter b/s.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:40 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

How much ball tampering would be needed at the St Helens 49ers

I suspect the device would overload and the ball would explode!

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:23 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Yes the forward velocity of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward velocity of the ball just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

Example. Player running at 25km/h forward velocity passes ball, ball is measured to have 25km/h forward velocity then it's a flat pass. > 25km/h it's a forward pass. No reference to the pitch, just the velocity of the player and ball is compared.

I think we know why it can't be achieved from that statement. You would need a video ref with the brain power of Einstein at every game & there just aren't enough Thalers to go round.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:41 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Yes the forward velocity of the player just at the point of passing can be compared with the forward velocity of the ball just following release. If the latter is greater than the former it's a forward pass.

Example. Player running at 25km/h forward velocity passes ball, ball is measured to have 25km/h forward velocity then it's a flat pass. > 25km/h it's a forward pass. No reference to the pitch, just the velocity of the player and ball is compared.

Well that's simplified that then.

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:50 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

How much ball tampering would be needed at the St Helens 49ers

Now he is retired from the game I’m sure they would get Tom Brady in as a technical advisor.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:53 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Now he is retired from the game I’m sure they would get Tom Brady in as a technical advisor.

To be fair they could teach 'old Tom' a thing or two

Re: This week’s disciplinary : Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:31 pm  

ninearches wrote:

I think we know why it can't be achieved from that statement. You would need a video ref with the brain power of Einstein at every game & there just aren't enough Thalers to go round.

Ha ha. Or something like Hawk Eye in cricket. Or non-myopic linesmen.